San Diego Jam and Alberto.

On 4/12/2020 at 4:15 PM, MN Fisher said:

I've switched to a single knot for all terminal applications.

 

For any joining work, leader or backing-to-mainline...double Uni.

Does this knot have a name? It seems easy to do but hard to find online. I like the idea of knots that double up through the connection.

16 minutes ago, michaelb said:

Does this knot have a name? It seems easy to do but hard to find online. I like the idea of knots that double up through the connection.

Top-left corner of the image 'Multifile-Knoten' is the name to search for. It's big in Europe, still relatively unknown here. Maybe need to come up with an English name for it.

16 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Top-left corner of the image 'Multifile-Knoten' is the name to search for. It's big in Europe, still relatively unknown here. Maybe need to come up with an English name for it.

Thanks, not much of a name even in german (I don't speak german at all, but does that translate to "multiple knot"? It seems like it is listed as a knot for mono, not braid, but I am not sure the word for braid in german to even know that. So the question for me is whether that is easier/stronger than then san diego jam. I was thinking of trying to tie a knot in a flouro leader, and I haven't had much luck tying knots in heavier flouro in the past.

9 minutes ago, michaelb said:

Thanks, not much of a name even in german (I don't speak german at all, but does that translate to "multiple knot"? It seems like it is listed as a knot for mono, not braid, but I am not sure the word for braid in german to even know that. So the question for me is whether that is easier/stronger than then san diego jam. I was thinking of trying to tie a knot in a flouro leader, and I haven't had much luck tying knots in heavier flouro in the past.

I'm not sure of the translation either...and I learned German back in High School (40+ years ago). I use it for braid - the right-side bottom shows the number of wraps to use for braided line, the left-side bottom shows it for single-strand (Mono/FC/Hybrid). I've never had it fail and I've used it for everything from 4# Yo-Zuri Hybrid to 50# Power Pro Spectra.

 

17 minutes ago, michaelb said:

Thanks, not much of a name even in german (I don't speak german at all, but does that translate to "multiple knot"? It seems like it is listed as a knot for mono, not braid, but I am not sure the word for braid in german to even know that. So the question for me is whether that is easier/stronger than then san diego jam. I was thinking of trying to tie a knot in a flouro leader, and I haven't had much luck tying knots in heavier flouro in the past.

I don't know German but I do know how to used Google translate.  According to google it translates to "Multifile Knot".  I checked the words "Multi" and "File" separately and they do not show a different German translation.

25 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I'm not sure of the translation either...and I learned German back in High School (40+ years ago). I use it for braid - the right-side bottom shows the number of wraps to use for braided line, the left-side bottom shows it for single-strand (Mono/FC/Hybrid). I've never had it fail and I've used it for everything from 4# Yo-Zuri Hybrid to 50# Power Pro Spectra.

Thanks, it looks worth trying. This page shows this knot and others and shows knot strength, and seems to list this one for mono (same as san diego jam). I am taking "polyfile" to mean braid, but I don't know that, since it doesn't seem to use consistent words to describe the same things on that page (so "multi" or "multifilament" could also mean braid, or it could mean several types of lines?).

 

http://www.angelknotenpage.de/WebApp/festmacherknoten.html

 

edit: I see that they do show different wraps and so that suggests "multifile" may reference braid there.

16/20, Pitzen and Duncan are other names for this knot.  Looks basically the same to me

and this is the ONLY knot I use for treble hook lures. For single hooks, the Palomar is my choice.

 

Palomar knot for most terminal connections, but the King Sling for jerks and cranks. Super easy and arguably better than any other loop knot. For leaders I use the FG knot. Other leader knots may be easier and faster but I like how thin and strong the FG is.