what action do you get from  this? it just sinks. don"t know how to ask but  why the weight?, it just don't do anything. seems to me it would do better weightless that way it would at least shimmy going down instead of like a bullet straight to the bottom

6 minutes ago, gbassman519 said:

it just don't do anything

 

It's doing more than you think ?

 

Doug Hannon Plastic Worm (Texas rigged weightless or weighted)

 

It's long, thin shape resembles the profile of a wide variety of forage in the world of the bass, including earthworms, snakes, eels, and baitfish.

 

Its action is almost entirely dependent on the contours of the bottom; and the rod movements of the fisherman, making it very random. It moves with little noise; the noise that it does make comes mostly from the random clicking of the sinker as it hits bottom. Bright colors and larger size can be used to increase its attracting qualities.

 

Because of its basic resemblance to a wide array of living forage, this lure presents very few negative cues, and is hard for big bass to learn not to hit.

Here's how to fish it.

 

thank you very much, helps a lot being i never fished that way.

4 hours ago, gbassman519 said:

it just don't do anything

Thats why you move your rod .Make it come alive .

The flat sides make it glide along when you move it. Fish it with a pretty light weight and it's actually a very active bait.

No wrong way to fish a stick bait. Would probably be my #1 if I had to only fish with one plastic.  Dont much care what kind of action it does or doesn't have weighted....they eat it and thats all that matters! I've always got one weightless, weighted and wacky rigged one the deck

Try the Gary Yamamoto inspired Owner T-Rig Hook for the Ocho / Senko in either 3/0 or 4/0 size : https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Owner_Twistlock_Light_Hook/descpage-OTLL.html

 

For a little faster fall and different action try the VMC "Drop Dead" hook in a 3/0 or 4/0 size and 3/32nd oz. weight : https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Drop_Dead_Weighted_Hook_4pk/descpage-VDDWH.html

 

I believe you will have fun with either of the two hooks above with an Ocho / Senko !!

An ocho acts just like a senko it is just bigger. I’ve had situational success with ocho’s. I like them  for hot summer days when the bass are hanging out in the pads with Preferably stained to dirty water.  I use the 6 inch black and blue flake ochoch with 1/4-1/2 oz and flip it into the pads. I think the bigger profile allows the bass key in on it in the pad jungle and dirty water. 
 

I also have water melon and kvd majic.  Havnt gotten the other colors to work yet. 

The Ocho has real good action, one of the best of a any stick baits. The downside is after a fish or two they're usually shot. I went through an pack of them in one day fishing this summer and only caught four or five fish.

3 hours ago, Boomstick said:

The Ocho has real good action, one of the best of a any stick baits. The downside is after a fish or two they're usually shot. I went through an pack of them in one day fishing this summer and only caught four or five fish.

I think this depends on the type of hook you're using. They're one of the more durable stickworms I've used without going to a stiffer plastic. I was actually T-rigging one Friday with a pegged 3/16oz sinker and caught 6 fish on the first one before it was shot and the second one was good for 4 fish. That's a whole bag worth of GYCB senko fish. I was actually using a 4/0 Owner Cover Shot hook and I think that helped durability a lot because the bait wasn't sliding down the hook with every fish.

11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I think this depends on the type of hook you're using. They're one of the more durable stickworms I've used without going to a stiffer plastic. I was actually T-rigging one Friday with a pegged 3/16oz sinker and caught 6 fish on the first one before it was shot and the second one was good for 4 fish. That's a whole bag worth of GYCB senko fish. I was actually using a 4/0 Owner Cover Shot hook and I think that helped durability a lot because the bait wasn't sliding down the hook with every fish.

 

Personally, I've actually had notably better luck with Senkos holding up longer in virtually every scenario, but the scenario where the Ochos really don't hold up for me has been fishing them around weeds, timber or rocks or something they can deflect off of and wreck themselves sometimes before I get a fish. I haven't had that problem at that level with any other soft plastic. In areas with nothing to bump it into, I've gotten 3-4 fish on one as well and at that point I'm actually pretty happy because they are cheaper than Senkos, and the reason I keep buying them is they downright catch fish as good or better than any other stick bait.