Daiwa Tatula SV TW is kinda loud and not as smooth as I was expecting.

[Chaos10691]

After having issues with 3 Curado in a row I just went with an entirely different brand. I picked up the Daiwa Tat SV TW 2020 model honestly due to how many good reviews it had. Now I used to have a Fuego CT and it was crazy smooth I felt like, but this one I can sorta feel the gears meshing together inside if that makes sense. Also it’s kinda loud on the retrieve compared to my other reels. I can’t tell if that’s the main shaft gears or the worm gear though.

Anyone else have issues with these reels right out of the box? Does it need to be serviced? 

[redmeansdistortion]

It was probably under lubed out of the factory, pretty common thing it seems.  I've had it happen with a few of my reels.  No harm, no foul.  A servicing quieted them right down.

[TcRoc]

I tore both of mine down fist thing and greased and oiled .. love these reels. 

[Chaos10691]

4 minutes ago, redmeansdistortion said:

It was probably under lubed out of the factory, pretty common thing it seems.  I've had it happen with a few of my reels.  No harm, no foul.  A servicing quieted them right down.

Ok I ordered some Shimano grease. Should I clean the grease off of the old gears before applying extra?

4 minutes ago, TcRoc said:

I tore both of mine down fist thing and greased and oiled .. love these reels. 

I bought some Shimano grease. Did you clean out the old oil and grease first?

[redmeansdistortion]

22 minutes ago, Chaos10691 said:

Ok I ordered some Shimano grease. Should I clean the grease off of the old gears before applying extra?

I bought some Shimano grease. Did you clean out the old oil and grease first?

It's always a good choice to clean off the old grease.  Some greases do not mix well, and we don't know what's being used in the factories.

[TcRoc]

57 minutes ago, Chaos10691 said:

Ok I ordered some Shimano grease. Should I clean the grease off of the old gears before applying extra?

I bought some Shimano grease. Did you clean out the old oil and grease first?

What grease .. it was about bone dry lol, but I did clean up a bit.. but again there really was nothing there. Few of my Daiwa’s have been grease and lubed nicely from factory some

not. Hence any reel I get I breakdown when I get it. That’s just me partly being anal and partly like tearing things apart. 

[Chaos10691]

6 minutes ago, TcRoc said:

What grease .. it was about bone dry lol, but I did clean up a bit.. but again there really was nothing there. Few of my Daiwa’s have been grease and lubed nicely from factory some

not. Hence any reel I get I breakdown when I get it. That’s just me partly being anal and partly like tearing things apart. 

Haha right on I also noticed it’s only noisy when on the rod. It’s the same with my other reels.

[Boomstick]

It's fairly common they simply didn't use enough grease from the factory. I would wager that you just need to grease it up.

[CrankFate]

Looks like you’re going to have to go Lews.

[AmmoGuy]

Good luck. 

A lot of the Tats are just noisy and geary. It’s hit or miss. Grease most likely isn’t going to change anything. 
 

Among other Tats, I have a Coastal SV TW (basically the same reel you have) that is so noisy and geary I almost don’t like fishing it, and I have a second Coastal that is smooth and quiet. 
 

Even though I like daiwa, I’ll probably never buy another Tatula reel. 
 

 

 

[Chaos10691]

49 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

Looks like you’re going to have to go Lews.

I think I like Lews rods more than their reels. I have a TP1 black that I am in love with.

17 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said:

Good luck. 

A lot of the Tats are just noisy and geary. It’s hit or miss. Grease most likely isn’t going to change anything. 
 

Among other Tats, I have a Coastal SV TW (basically the same reel you have) that is so noisy and geary I almost don’t like fishing it, and I have a second Coastal that is smooth and quiet. 
 

Even though I like daiwa, I’ll probably never buy another Tatula reel. 
 

 

 

I ordered some grease. Hopefully it does something. I did notice that it’s only noisy when on the rod like the rod is amplifying the sound. Regardless if the grease doesn’t fix it I have 30 days to return it. 

I was so sold on the Curados cause I have one that is perfectly smooth and buttery. But everyone I’ve tried to buy afterward has had some issue with it.

[PhishLI]

7 minutes ago, Chaos10691 said:

I ordered some grease. Hopefully it does something.

When you have it open it's worth it to either clean and lube, or just add lube, the side-plate side spool bearing, then the palm side spool bearing. One of mine came dry and locked up rather quickly. I haven't had any lube-clashing issues in the past using either Bantam oil or the Daiwa Reel oiler on Daiwa bearings.

[iabass8]

Daiwa reels are notorious for coming dry from the factory more often than not. Opening the side plate up and and adding new grease to the gears is the best option. I will strongly advise against scrubbing the lower end daiwa gears /w a toothbrush and rather just let them soak in a degreaser and rinse/dry. I'm not a fan of the shimano ACE2 for Daiwa reels but it's okay. Daiwa space age blue/clear or ZPI medium are what I prefer for the main/pinion. while you're in there, 100% flush the 2 spool bearings and re oil them /w your choice of a low viscosity oil . 

[Chaos10691]

6 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

Daiwa reels are notorious for coming dry from the factory more often than not. Opening the side plate up and and adding new grease to the gears is the best option. I will strongly advise against scrubbing the lower end daiwa gears /w a toothbrush and rather just let them soak in a degreaser and rinse/dry. I'm not a fan of the shimano ACE2 for Daiwa reels but it's okay. Daiwa space age blue/clear or ZPI medium are what I prefer for the main/pinion. while you're in there, 100% flush the 2 spool bearings and re oil them /w your choice of a low viscosity oil . 

Ok I ordered Shimano star drag grease. Would that be ok? Also what do you flush the spool bearings with?

[iabass8]

27 minutes ago, Chaos10691 said:

Ok I ordered Shimano star drag grease. Would that be ok? Also what do you flush the spool bearings with?

It will work but it isn't something I use on my or others reels. You can flush spool bearings a few different ways. you can soak them in lighter fluid or acetone for example in a baby food jar and gently swish them around from time to time. A second quick bath in isopropyl alcohol is best and then  A quick shot of compressed air while holding the bearing in place and then spin the bearing to test /w your finger on a bearing check tool or pencil w/e. You don't need a 900 second free spin. The key is for the bearing to not have a "crunch" sound and it to come to a smooth , not abrupt, stop. Then a very, very, small drop of oil in the bearing. 

[Chaos10691]

2 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

It will work but it isn't something I use on my or others reels. You can flush spool bearings a few different ways. you can soak them in lighter fluid or acetone for example in a baby food jar and gently swish them around from time to time. A second quick bath in isopropyl alcohol is best and then  A quick shot of compressed air while holding the bearing in place and then spin the bearing to test /w your finger on a bearing check tool or pencil w/e. You don't need a 900 second free spin. The key is for the bearing to not have a "crunch" sound and it to come to a smooth , not abrupt, stop. Then a very, very, small drop of oil in the bearing. 

Ok awesome thank you. What grease would you use on the gears?

[iabass8]

6 minutes ago, Chaos10691 said:

Ok awesome thank you. What grease would you use on the gears?

For Daiwa specifically, Daiwa space age blue or JDM clear or ZPI medium.

[Chaos10691]

6 hours ago, iabass8 said:

For Daiwa specifically, Daiwa space age blue or JDM clear or ZPI medium.

Ok I ordered some of the Daiwa grease. I’ll wait til that stuff comes in before tearing it apart. Thank you for your help.

[txchaser]

I have quite a few of the SV TWs. If I had to do it all over again, if it's geary just put in back in the box and exchange it for another. When they are smooth (most of them) it's really nice. Probably a 50% hit rate on greasing, cleaning bearings, etc actually making a difference. Sometimes a big difference. 

[Born 2 fish]

I have a couple tatula sv’s both are smooth. But my buddy got a couple and they were horrible. He sent one back to be cleaned got it back a no better than before. He ended up selling them cheap and went with Lews super duty’s.

[Chaos10691]

1 hour ago, Born 2 fish said:

I have a couple tatula sv’s both are smooth. But my buddy got a couple and they were horrible. He sent one back to be cleaned got it back a no better than before. He ended up selling them cheap and went with Lews super duty’s.

I figure worst case I have 30 days to return it

[desmobob]

Sad to hear about the Tatula's apparent QC problems.  I bought a Tatula several years ago as something to try as a bargain offering that was different than the Lew's Tournament Pros I had always used.  I was really impressed with the performance and value and immediately bought a second one.  Both impressed me and I thought they offered tremendous value.

[Chaos10691]

Just now, desmobob said:

Sad to hear about the Tatula's apparent QC problems.  I bought a Tatula several years ago as something to try as a bargain offering that was different than the Lew's Tournament Pros I had always used.  I was really impressed with the performance and value and immediately bought a second one.  Both impressed me and I thought they offered tremendous value.

Ya I had a fuego a while back and absolutely loved it. It was super smooth and casted far. I’m gonna try to tear it apart and clean it real good and grease it. If that doesn’t work I’ll exchange it. I took it out and casted and skipped with it a bit, and it worked flawlessly minus the noisy cast and not buttery smooth retrieve lol

[Dirtyeggroll]

I have several Tatula SVs. One of them is a talker. It’s been greased and super tuned to the moon. Still noisy, but stills casts great and works great as a skipping reel. 

[Chaos10691]

2 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

Tatula platform reels are like that.  They are not particularly refined feeling and have a lot of variance reel to reel.  

That’s sad to hear. I went with this one cause I was having issues with the curados and the SV spool would help my backlash problem. I took it out yesterday and it performed as it’s stated but wasn’t the most smooth and on hard casts was noisy.