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New reel...Zillion SV TW G. Pick one of my rods.


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I know.  Wasting data space. Know what most will say.  BORED to death.  Live in Deland, FL area now.  Fish from shore.  Anytime I will be fishing in weeds/pads I will mostly be using an unweighted worm.  Never punched.  This reel is one of my most expensive reels, and one everyone seems to love, so I want it on one of my more expensive rods because it will see the most use.

 

Low end on 5 of the rods is 3/8 oz. so I need to actually get on the water with them to see if any will handle 3/8 oz. with decent casting distance.  These rods either haven't been used by me or only used once or twice so I really don't have an opinion on any of them yet. 

 

3/8 low end.  Please comment if you know any of these effectively handle 3/8 oz. (or can't).

Shaman HF

old Orochii XX Diablo Spec R 

Expert Amistad

Toadface

Techna AV MHF

 

Rest are MH with 1/4 oz. on low end with noted exception.

Deputy

Money Maker

Techna AV MF

Helium3 MH-EF

Helium3 Light MHF 3/16-7/8 oz.

old Endurance MH-EF

old Tatula MHR

Shaman MHF

 

Spooling with 45# Fins 40G.  Always used a MHF with 40# braid when visiting.  No problems.

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An expert amistad is going to struggle with only 3/8 oz. If that’s 3/8 plus plastic then you’re in with a chance. A 3.5” sized beaver plus 3/8 weight is no problem. It might be better if you’re only using 14lb line (my amistad gets heavier) but straight 3/8 is going to push the limits even with the zillion. 
 

given the other rods in your list, I think the amistad is too heavy for what you’re talking. You’re needing a 1/4-1 type rod or so. In the falcon lineup, the Cara swim jig rod, any of the head turners, or the Cara dragger 1  would all do it. The heavy cover jig might but I haven’t tried to throw 3/8 unweighted work with it (sounds like you’re talking a 5” senko?). 

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I think a lot of them, especially in the bottom list, would throw a weightless worm around 3/8oz. I assume as mentioned above that you are thinking a Senko or maybe a trick worm or something.

 

I'd tie one on and see what you like if you already have those rods. The ability to cast what you are wanting to cast is most important, but almost as importantly,... See which one balances best with the Zillion and feels comfortable in your hand for casting.

 

You won't use it if it is uncomfortable and a pain to fish with. I spend a lot of time with my rods finding the right reel on the right rod for a given purpose.

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I was thinking the Amistad wouldn't make the cut given its high end lure rating.  I probably should eliminate the rods with the 3/8 oz.  rating.  The thing is I have a 7' 6" MHF with that low end rating that I refuse to use a 3/8 oz. spinnerbait on.  We all know it weighs more than 3/8 oz., but it barely casts it short range.  I have a ML saltwater rod with that rating that will cast a 3/8 oz. crankbait the proverbial country mile.

 

Can't know until you try.  I've read the Money Maker fishes a bit higher than its rating.  So probably not that rod either.

 

As mentioned by FrnkNsteen, I like the rods in the lower list best.  Will try the Deputy, Techna MF, Helium MH-EF and Shaman MHF first.  I have a fondness for my Tatula rods so I will also try that rod even though it has a Regular action.

 

 

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1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

If it's a 703 or 733, no problem flinging a weightless 5" stick bait.

Believe it is the 723C.  7' 2" older model.

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I would suggest trying the extra-fast rated rods first. True extra-fast can be a bit of an "acquired taste" but tend to cast below the rating pretty well.

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44 minutes ago, webertime said:

Junebug weightless ultravibe speedworm or they kick you out of Florida.

I use an unweighted Junebug 10 inch ribbontail 95% or more when fishing a worm.

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     Heck, The Zillion will work on any of the rods you have listed. I'd go outside (backyard) and rig your Zillion with the 10" worm on each rod. I'd start from the lightest "power" rod and work towards heaviest power. Figure out which one loads and casts the best and if it is your cheapest rod, so be it.

     If two of the rods are really close to being the best. make a second play date with them and take'em fishing!

FM

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1 hour ago, Fishingmickey said:

     Heck, The Zillion will work on any of the rods you have listed. I'd go outside (backyard) and rig your Zillion with the 10" worm on each rod. I'd start from the lightest "power" rod and work towards heaviest power. Figure out which one loads and casts the best and if it is your cheapest rod, so be it.

     If two of the rods are really close to being the best. make a second play date with them and take'em fishing!

FM

I know the Zillion would work on any rod.  I need one that will cast an unweighted 10 inch ribbontail quite a ways.  No can do the back yard test.  Would be casting through a neighbor's window, front room and into their bedroom. :D

 

Small public park on a small lake about 3 minutes from my place.  Testing will have to be done there.

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