Anyone bought & or tried this out yet? I’m about to pull the trigger but there are a couple things that concerns me, they (Daiwa) are omitting ball bearings and using high compression bushings. The TW rep mentioned ceramic one time but I’m not sure if he’s correct. 
Surely this spool will have bearings.

(Spool) 

Next thing is the Long Cast spool design, this reel will do Gulf and freshwater work. It will be a stand alone reel. No spool swaps etc. It holds alot of line which will be important to me. 
 

I'd appreciate opinions either for against.. 

 

It's the Icast release of this year so I’m sure there is little known, other than the Hyper everything updates 😂

 

Thank you. 

43 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

Anyone bought & or tried this out yet?

I haven't.

43 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

there are a couple things that concerns me, they (Daiwa) are omitting ball bearings and using high compression bushings.

Which is just fine for a saltwater reel.

43 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

The TW rep mentioned ceramic one time but I’m not sure if he’s correct. 

Probably not. Most likely nylon.

43 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

Surely this spool will have bearings.

It'll have crbbs(corrosion resistant). Typically black.

43 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

I'd appreciate opinions either for against

The metal gear side plate Tatulas with the new gear cut are legit. If it fits your needs, go for it.

 

P.S. The standard Tat 200 is my brother's favorite reel. Has 3 and he's had everything you'd recognize on TW.

1 hour ago, F14A-B said:

I’m about to pull the trigger but there are a couple things that concerns me, they (Daiwa) are omitting ball bearings and using high compression bushings.

I wouldn't worry about bushings.  While a bearing is typically smoother, a bushing is more durable.  As long as they aren't used in the spool, there isn't anything else concerning.  I've built out my share of bushing reels over the years, especially ones where durability was higher on the priority list than end performance.  These were mostly for guys fishing salmon in the rivers where taking a dip or getting your reel wet is very common.  

If you are not wanting to try an unproven reel, you can buy the old Diawa Coastal 200 on sale for $250 at TW.  The Coastal 200 was one of the best reels I have ever owned.  I used it in salt water for a few years, without any problems.  It was also one of  my favorite freshwater reels.  I lost it overboard awhile back.  Even the best reel can not make up for stupidity.  I should have replaced it with another Coastal 200 right away, but I couldn't resist the deals on JDM reels at the time.  Nothing against the reels I bought, but I do miss my Coastal 200.

16 minutes ago, redmeansdistortion said:

I wouldn't worry about bushings.  While a bearing is typically smoother, a bushing is more durable.  As long as they aren't used in the spool, there isn't anything else concerning.  I've built out my share of bushing reels over the years, especially ones where durability was higher on the priority list than end performance.  These were mostly for guys fishing salmon in the rivers where taking a dip or getting your reel wet is very common.  

 

4 minutes ago, king fisher said:

If you are not wanting to try an unproven reel, you can buy the old Diawa Coastal 200 on sale for $250 at TW.  The Coastal 200 was one of the best reels I have ever owned.  I used it in salt water for a few years, without any problems.  It was also one of  my favorite freshwater reels.  I lost it overboard awhile back.  Even the best reel can not make up for stupidity.  I should have replaced it with another Coastal 200 right away, but I couldn't resist the deals on JDM reels at the time.  Nothing against the reels I bought, but I do miss my Coastal 200.

Either of you guys ever heard of a ceramic coated bushing? I’ve heard of brass and nylon but high compression ceramic doesn’t seem logical to me. Idk..

52 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

 

Either of you guys ever heard of a ceramic coated bushing? I’ve heard of brass and nylon but high compression ceramic doesn’t seem logical to me. Idk..

I've never heard of them, but I'm sure they exist.  Ceramic coating can provide a very slick surface compared to bronze, brass, or plastic bushings.  On the builds I've done in the past, I'd polish the insides of the bushings to a mirror shine, then apply a thin film lubricant.

Thanks guys.. I’ve ordered it. We’ll see how it works out. 

Ive been looking at the Coastal line for years.  If they had they had JDM versions I would have bought one by now.  The older SV 103 was very close.  It had a good amount of CRBBs and handled SW well, so I just grabbed one of them. A little over a year later, Daiwa put out the Coastal 80 the next year, wish I had waited.  I think the 80 uses an Alphas frame, really small, but like the rest of the coastals, it has more capacity than typical reel of that size. 

I've been curious about them for a long time, but they aren't super popular up here, not many shops sell them.  The color makes them easy to spot, so every time I do see someone using one, I ask them about reel and how they like it.

Most every one I talked to really likes them.  I found that guys who have both and fish deep water, jigging or dragging, or throwing heavier plugs, say they like the 200 over the 150.  The guys who drift for fluke, tog and toss lighter baits at bass and weakfish in the ICW really like the 150.  No matter what the guys said, most of them who bought the 150, bought the 200 shortly after and vice versa.

Bearings are a point of failure in a SW reel, so a lot of SW reels have a lower bearing count.

 

 

Daiwa's Magforce LC-Concept braking system - components

• Spool and Inductor: The spool is lightweight A7075 aluminum and features an inductor. This inductor is a cup-shaped or cylindrical piece, often made of metal, that spins with the spool shaft.
• Magforce Plate and Magnets: The braking system is housed in the palm-side plate of the reel. Adjustable magnets are within this plate, often arranged in a circular configuration. The user can adjust the position of these magnets using an external dial, controlling the braking force.
• Dynamic Braking: The LC-Concept features a dynamic braking system, particularly relevant for the Tatula Coastal's emphasis on long casts.
  • Start of the Cast (High Spool Speed): At the beginning of the cast, the spool's centrifugal force, driven by the lure's inertia, pushes the inductor outwards into the magnetic field. This creates a strong braking force, preventing backlash.
  • Mid-Cast (Decreasing Spool Speed): As the lure flies and the spool speed decreases, the inductor retracts slightly, reducing the braking force. This optimizes casting distance and smooth line flow.
  • End of the Cast (Low Spool Speed):Towards the end of the cast, when the spool speed is very low, the inductor might retract completely, eliminating braking and maximizing casting distance. 

As stated, my ordered reel should be here Monday according to UPS, 

 

Then I’ll see whether or not the spool is dynamic or fixed rotor. Many say it’s fixed but a AI search after every other search I performed revealed the above information on Daiwa’s LC spool designation. 

Also, I could not find a schematic for this new Coastal 200, I hope to get one with the reel Monday. 

1 hour ago, F14A-B said:

 

Daiwa's Magforce LC-Concept braking system - components

• Spool and Inductor: The spool is lightweight A7075 aluminum and features an inductor. This inductor is a cup-shaped or cylindrical piece, often made of metal, that spins with the spool shaft.
• Magforce Plate and Magnets: The braking system is housed in the palm-side plate of the reel. Adjustable magnets are within this plate, often arranged in a circular configuration. The user can adjust the position of these magnets using an external dial, controlling the braking force.
• Dynamic Braking: The LC-Concept features a dynamic braking system, particularly relevant for the Tatula Coastal's emphasis on long casts.
  • Start of the Cast (High Spool Speed): At the beginning of the cast, the spool's centrifugal force, driven by the lure's inertia, pushes the inductor outwards into the magnetic field. This creates a strong braking force, preventing backlash.
  • Mid-Cast (Decreasing Spool Speed): As the lure flies and the spool speed decreases, the inductor retracts slightly, reducing the braking force. This optimizes casting distance and smooth line flow.
  • End of the Cast (Low Spool Speed):Towards the end of the cast, when the spool speed is very low, the inductor might retract completely, eliminating braking and maximizing casting distance. 

As stated, my ordered reel should be here Monday according to UPS, 

 

Then I’ll see whether or not the spool is dynamic or fixed rotor. Many say it’s fixed but a AI search after every other search I performed revealed the above information on Daiwa’s LC spool designation. 

Also, I could not find a schematic for this new Coastal 200, I hope to get one with the reel Monday. 

Daiwa US isn't real Daiwa and everything they say should be ignored. The 200 is a fixed inductor spool.   I suspect LC isn't new and is just a rebrand of Magforce Z and Magforce.  I imagine they wanted a two letter acronym for their braking systems that weren't SV.  LC is basically "not SV".  The enpoopification of everything continues. 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

Daiwa US isn't real Daiwa and everything they say should be ignored. The 200 is a fixed inductor spool.   I suspect LC isn't new and is just a rebrand of Magforce Z and Magforce.  I imagine they wanted a two letter acronym for their braking systems that weren't SV.  LC is basically "not SV".  The enpoopification of everything continues. 

 

 

I tend to agree with you. As far as the coastal 200, I’m guessing Magforce. 

BTW, what’s the deal w Diawa USA? There is alot of disdain for them from Daiwa users..

It is possible that the 200 has a dynamic brake.  No one has gotten their hands on one and checked yet.  That arbor might be big enough for an SV brake but I would think they would market it as an SV reel then.  

58 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

It is possible that the 200 has a dynamic brake.  No one has gotten their hands on one and checked yet.  That arbor might be big enough for an SV brake but I would think they would market it as an SV reel then.  

True. I’ll know Monday for sure, I think lol

14 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

The 200 is a fixed inductor spool.

I agree. Look at the pic below. There's no way where I can see that the fixed part of a Mag Z or SV's inductor ramp's dogs can anchor to the face of the spool. There simply isn't the space to allow for the two necessary anchoring holes.

13 hours ago, F14A-B said:

I tend to agree with you. As far as the coastal 200, I’m guessing Magforce. 

Don't sweat it. Magforce is fine for the heavier baits you'll be throwing with a high line cap reel this. Frankly, it's also fine in a lower line cap reel and typical baits. I have a Lexa 100HL that's built on a frame very close to an Alphas or Tatula 80. Other than the fact that its smaller than usual arbor allows for more line therefor a heaver spool, it still casts common bass baits quite well.

 

 

The new tatulas are so much better than shimano offerings in the same price range. Release a 300 size, and its over for the others.

23 minutes ago, Micro Module Police said:

The new tatulas are so much better than shimano offerings in the same price range. Release a 300 size, and its over for the others.

Yep. I had the 300 tranx and sold it to a guy on here. Had a 500 also for offshore stuff, after a couple years I sold it to a musky fisherman local to me. It was a more solid reel, just a total beast. 

Reel came and I removed the spool to have a look-see, definitely fixed rotor. 
 

Later I’ll post some pics, I’m covered up at this time..

1 hour ago, F14A-B said:

 

Later I’ll post some pics, I’m covered up at this time..

https://fishingtackleretailer.com/daiwas-2025-coastal-tw-200-2/
 

 

These pictures even though it’s low light and focus is poor because of it, shows the Ceramic bushing on the brake side. I’m all but certain it’s the same on the cast control side as well..

Crank sports a crrb bearing and drag is very smooth and adjustment is also. 
The line out alarm (drag) is audible but quiet when compared to the 3 Zillion HD 1000 reels I have. This reel is closer to a Zillion than a Tatula. Though not a made in Japan reel it’s well constructed. (Thailand) After 5 casts, making quick adjustments on the 6th cast I measured 192 feet throwing 3/4 ounce on an Evergreen/Daiwa rod.. I can live with that. 

9 hours ago, F14A-B said:

These pictures even though it’s low light and focus is poor because of it, shows the Ceramic bushing on the brake side. I’m all but certain it’s the same on the cast control side as well..

You sure? Looks like a bearing from here.

30 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

You sure? Looks like a bearing from here.

My mistake. That’s a crrb on brake side. Ceramic bushing is on cast control side. Thanks for calling me out on that. 

There are only 2 ball bearings on this reel per schematic..one spool at brake side and one on the crank. 

Apparently that was a source of failure on the previous model. The schematic calls bushings, collars but they’re supposed to be ceramic. I’m not prepared to disassemble to find out but the intrigue is there. It’s an amazing caster and the retrieve is Zillion smooth. I can recommend it. 

27 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

It’s an amazing caster and the retrieve is Zillion smooth. I can recommend it. 

Cool. Would you scan and upload the schematic here for a looksee?