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Do they not make any micro swivels with mini split rings to prevent line twist in flukes?

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I already tried using a micro swivel 8-24” up but got sick of it going through my guides. 
 

This leaves only using a finesse snap swivel or swivel w a #1 split ring attached as options. As far as I can see, the closest I can get to that are barrel swivels with split rings but these are still too big for the gin clear conditions and finicky bass that call for a fluke. These barrels are the thick, anvil style rather than the thin rounded bead seen in the micro swivels.

 

What do you recommend? I am beyond sick of line twist.  I guess I could make them myself, attach a #1 hyper wire to a micro swivel but that would be extremely tedious as I go through several a trip. 

So you think the fish are put off by a small(ish) swivel in clear water but aren't put off by a shiny hook sticking out the back of a fluke? 

 

Sorry if am I misunderstanding.

I actually use the same swivel I would for a Carolina rig. 
Put it about 18” above the bait. No line twist and the extra weight helps with casting.

Don't wind up so far?

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Whatever you're doing to the flukes is causing line twist. I fish flukes a lot and I don't get line twist.

 

Not knowing any other details, such as type of fluke, rigging technique I'll tell you what I do.

 

I use a zoom super fluke. I use a 3/0 offset worm hook and go through the nose and down, then up through the belly and skin hook it on the back.

 

I rig it so that the back of the fluke is straight or has a slight bend so that the nose is pointed downward. I make sure it's rigged straight left to right too.

 

I normally use a Krey Loop knot so that I have more swing when twitching it. But I have used a regular knot.

 

When working it, I twitch it with 6"-12" jerks of the rod tip, letting the line go slack between twitches. I can work it fast or slow this way. If I have my rod tip high the fluke will skim the surface, if low, it'll stay a foot or two below the surface if worked fast and not allowed to sink upon then initial fall.

 

I almost always throw it on a baitcasting rod and reel with mono line. I use 8lb, 10lb, and 12lb Trilene Big Game most of the time.

 

If I was getting line twist, I would look at using an EWG hook, to act as a keel. Might do do use a twist lock hook as well. If you're fishing deeper anyways, you could use a belly weighted hook.

 

If I needed a swivel, I'd run it about 6" above the fluke, and I'd use a large, silver ball bearing swivel.  That would cause the swivel to flash and appear as though the fluke was chasing a smaller baitfish.

 

Another option might be to add a plastic bead and bobber stop in front of the swivel to keep the swivel from hitting the tip top.

 

Postscript, I forgot to mention, I make sure to only use flukes that aren't bent out of the package. If the tails are bent very much at all to either side they will twist when retrieved.

I use these. Not sure if they'll help for what you need.

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9 hours ago, RRocket said:

I use these. Not sure if they'll help for what you need.

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Yeah wonder if I could pinch it closed?

10 hours ago, txchaser said:

That’s not weedless is it?

3 hours ago, ohioguy25 said:

Yeah wonder if I could pinch it closed?

 

Yes, that's how they work. Pinch it closed. The instructions on back suggest a drop of glue to help keep it closed..but I've never used glue and never had one open.

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That’s not weedless. You’d T-rig the fluke if you want weedless.

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2 hours ago, VolFan said:

That’s not weedless. You’d T-rig the fluke if you want weedless.

The gammy hook looks weedless 

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The one in the picture? I’m not sure I’m following…

On 9/17/2025 at 1:52 PM, RRocket said:

So you think the fish are put off by a small(ish) swivel in clear water but aren't put off by a shiny hook sticking out the back of a fluke? 

 

Sorry if am I misunderstanding.

A swivel more than about 10-12” in front of a bait will create a 2nd, distinct, sound signature that bass are able to detect and distinguish from the bait’s.  I could understand how this might be ‘confusing’ and put off a fish.   But, I would also understand if told that this might pique their curiosity.   A hook sticking out of the back of a fluke would be part of the flukes sound signature.  Visually, it would make sense that it is either disguised by the bait or is being seen as part of the bait, like a dorsal fin, which I think might be a good thing.

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I’m probably the exception but I have been fishing Yamamoto DShads for so long that I can rig them so they run with no line twist. I had twist problems early on but throughout the years, it’s become second nature to rig them to pull up, pull down, pull left, pull right, or dart level depending on the conditions I am fishing.  It’s also pretty important to get the depth you initially thread the part that will end up on the knot right and to get the point up through the middle of the back.  As usual what seems to be a simple rig is actually more involved than it appears. 

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That’s still not weedless. What makes you think it’s weedless?

3 hours ago, OldManLure said:

A swivel more than about 10-12” in front of a bait will create a 2nd, distinct, sound signature that bass are able to detect and distinguish from the bait’s.  I could understand how this might be ‘confusing’ and put off a fish.   But, I would also understand if told that this might pique their curiosity.   A hook sticking out of the back of a fluke would be part of the flukes sound signature.  Visually, it would make sense that it is either disguised by the bait or is being seen as part of the bait, like a dorsal fin, which I think might be a good thing.

Sorry...I'm just not buying it.

 

6 hours ago, ohioguy25 said:

No this one 1830A1F8-5587-4777-B775-0ADFA1C50BC7.png.4bb2931819a4a5482b3976c1bded4fd8.png

That’s a poop bait hook.

6 hours ago, rangerjockey said:

That’s a poop bait hook.

From Gamakatsu:

 

 The Gamakatsu Worm 34R Hydroll is the optimal hook for scat and fluke style baits.

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Just to throw a wrench in the selections, Yamamoto just introduced the “Hinge Minnow” which is an upsized DShad with a jointed section and ridges that make it tip side to side.  

VMC offers their Rolling Swivel in smaller sizes. I believe they come in pkgs of 8. I like the size 6 placed around 18in. up from a 

Fluke, or Senko, especially when I intentionally put a kink in the bait. I use them when fishing tubes in deeper water, too. 

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