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Next step up casting combo, pairing rod and reel

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Early last season I bought a Pflueger Monarch casting combo, my first bait casting set up (I posted about this on the forum). It's certainly a low end combo but it's served me pretty well for two seasons. This said, I can tell it is already starting to wear out (I also tend to treat my fishing gear pretty rough). Also, while I am finally getting the hang of using a casting reel, I am not as proficient as I would like with different casting techniques. So, I'd like to up my game next season and also invest in something a little nicer: i'd like to get more distance on casts, and also gain proficiency in sidearm (I'm ok) and pitching (I'm hopeless).

 

Two questions--

1. Naturally, I am curious about recommendations. There are tons of threads on rods and reels, which are a bit overwhelming! I am looking for some basic suggestions for the "next step up" from the really entry level, $100 combos you find at big box stores (e.g. Pleuger Monarch, Abu Maxx, etc). From what I have read, I am leaning toward Daiwa, but things get pricey fast. 

 

For rods, I really do prefer a two piece (I know, I know) for the convenience (I do a lot of bike fishing): this seems to limit options significantly.

 

2. How does one pair a casting reel and rod? The easiest is to get a combo, obviously. But there seems to be a lot fewer casting combos than spinning combos. I know how to match a spinning reel and rod (balance on or near the front grip) and can easily tell when a spinning combination "feels" right. I can easily mix and match equipment (e.g. I know not to put a 1000 reel onto a MH rod, and so forth). But I have a lot less experience with casting combos. What I do love about the Pflueger MH combo that I have, which is low profile, is that it is soooo light for a MH set up. I assume it is paired well since it's a combo. I don't have the faintest idea where to start!

 

Any help will be appreciated!

I made a cheap light weight combo with a handing m1 7'3" heavy two piece rod and a kastking verus baitcasting reel.  Got them on sale for roughly 100 for the combo.  I think it's roughly 9 or 10 ounces total  

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basically any 70-150 sized reel will pair with basically any 'normal' sized bass rod.  The reels will have differences in form factor/shape and will vary in weight from 5 to 9 ounces but they will all be pretty much mix and match.  If you go to the extremes (rods approaching or over 7'6" or 6'6" and under) then you might want to stay on the end of the ranges (I wouldn't put a 70 sized reel on a 7'6" flipping stick) but it sounds like you are talking general bass fishing.

 

So first pick your total price point.  If you're coming from a $100 total price point combo, doing to a $200-250 'combo' is going to be a lot nicer.  The two piece rod will be limiting a bit, but there are some out there.  I'd start your search there for 2-piece rods in the $70-$120 bracket.  Similarly, I'd look at reels in the $100-125 bracket.  A shimano XT will be there.  I think Lews has a good on in that range.  When you find a few options that are interesting and fit your style, search on this forum for reviews of those rods and you'll find all the info you could want.

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Bumping this back up. I see a sale for a Daiwa Tatula 100, for about $200 CAD, which is not bad for up here. Seems like an excellent reel, maybe more on the finesse side. Is this more properly paired with a medium or medium heavy? I use a lot of lures in the 1/2 oz range (up to 3/4 or 1 oz). I also have lighter stuff that I use with spinning. But I am trying to move more to casting especially for soft plastics. 
 

as for two piece rods, Daiwa sells a line in Canada called Canadian Custom. I have a MH spinning rod. It’s ok. Not sure about the casting rods in the series. Everything that I read says they are decent but not great.

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Diawa Tatula X for $150 and Diawa Ardito Travel Rod, $180 at Tackle Warehouse.  I haven't tried the Tatula X, but was very happy with the Tatula CT which the X has replaced, and absolutely love the three Ardito casting rods I own.

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What a rod weighs has little to do with the rods power rating; ie M or MH!

The basic reel weight to casting rod weight is 2 to 1 or 8 oz reel in 4 oz rod.

Lighter will drive the cost up.

Casting reels  under 6 oz and rods around 4 oz works good as a combo but will cost you more.

Rod length adds some weight.

Tom

Whatever brand you chose its fine, just make sure its an aluminum frame, that is the real step up from budget reels.

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8 hours ago, Gera said:

Whatever brand you chose its fine, just make sure its an aluminum frame, that is the real step up from budget reels.

So as it happens, I just pulled the trigger on a 2023 Tatula 100 -- the "regular" Tatula, not the SV or other higher end ones. Sale was too good to pass up. It has an aluminum frame, according to the specs. Unfortunately, it won't arrive until into November, and it is getting pretty cold for fishing up here!

 

So I will likely end up keeping it in the box until spring, when I need to figure out what to pair it with. As mentioned above, I am pretty well locked into 2-piece. Buying options here are more limited. I will probably go with a Daiwa CDN Custom two piece, either a 6'10" medium or a 7'1" MH. I actually have the MH in a spinning combo and it is not a bad rod. My older casting setup is MH, so I am tempted to get a M. But I am thinking of the new rod and reel more as a replacement than as a complement.

On 10/26/2025 at 8:00 PM, WRB-2.0 said:

What a rod weighs has little to do with the rods power rating; ie M or MH!

The basic reel weight to casting rod weight is 2 to 1 or 8 oz reel in 4 oz rod.

Lighter will drive the cost up.

Casting reels  under 6 oz and rods around 4 oz works good as a combo but will cost you more.

Rod length adds some weight.

Tom

That ratio (2:1) is super helpful. The Tatula 100 is 6.0 oz without line per the specs.

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29 minutes ago, voxborealis said:

So as it happens, I just pulled the trigger on a 2023 Tatula 100 -- the "regular" Tatula, not the SV or other higher end ones.

I think you'll be happy - I've got 4 of the Tatula 100's in my arsenal and I've been happy with them the past few years.

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Does the Tatula 100 ship “dry” or is it greased? I have read conflicting things. 

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Mine all came greased - but better to check anyway....it's not hard to take the side-plate off for a look-see.

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