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What is the purpose for having a 60º line tie vs the standard 90º line tie?

 

What is the purpose of having a twisted eye vs the standard?

 

https://www.basspro.com/p/bass-pro-shops-round-head-pro-jigheads

  • Super User

Angle is a good question.   Matt Steffan has a couple/few pretty good videos that address line tie angle.  Unfortunately, I can't find any good underwater videos, which would probably be helpful to many.  

   Some of the things I believe are affected, are the bait aspect while swimming, aspect while nearly motionless off the bottom, ability to come through grass or wood (90 sucks in cover), etc.  The ratio of amount of weight behind tie is important, too, but I'm not analytical enough to worry much about that when I'm on the water.

 

  For me, 90° is for more vertical and deeper presentations. 60 swims well, even around cover.  30 is great for fast swimming and ticking grass and wood.

   That is too simple, I know, but you really just have to experiment and maybe even do your own pool tests.

 

   As to the rotated tie, I have no clue.  I hate them because I cannot get them through even the most sparse cover - and within 10 foot of rocks, forget it.

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To add to @Choporoz's post - a really good post I might add. 

 

If you tie a jig with a 90* line tie you will notice that it pretty much stays horizontal and is pretty balanced when you hold it up with the line. My bucktails are all 90* and I use them vertical or near vertical presentations - as Choporoz mentions - in deep water while drifting. 

 

If you look at the 60* line tie it pretty much mimics a spinnerbait - not totally, but close - and is great for swimming along the floor of the lake and depending on head style deflects off cover.

 

A grass jig has less than 30* line tie and is great for swimming and coming thru ...  grass. The line tie mimics that of a Texas rig - altho a t-rig's line tie is straight - which allows it to come thru heavy cover easier with a more bullet shaped head.

 

As far as the rotated line tie? Denny Brauer used it a lot and maintained that it came thru cover easier. I never experienced much of a difference 

  • Super User

So when you guys are referring to (twisted or rotated) are you referencing flat eye hooks?

 

 

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  • Super User

60 degree jig hooks were made for Arkie style jigs to provide space for the weedgaurd. Flat eye jig hooks are supposedly more weedless?

Tom 

15 hours ago, Bazoo said: is the purpose for having a 60º line tie vs the standard 90º line tie?

 

What is the purpose of having a twisted eye vs the standard?

 

https://www.basspro.com/p/bass-pro-shops-round-head-pro-jigheads

That was a bait monkey suggestion given to his cousin who works in marketing.

  • Super User

Flat eye hooks keep the line tie in the same position.  Straight eye the knot can move around. 

 

Allen 

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I almost always use a loop knot when tying on a jighead, so a horizontal eye won't benefit me probably.

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3 hours ago, Bazoo said:

I almost always use a loop knot when tying on a jighead, so a horizontal eye won't benefit me probably.

Curious as to why.   I think I used a loop knot a sum total of one time in my life...on a small rip bait, IIRC.  I'm sure it works fine, I just didn't like tying it and didn't realize any benefit for me.

  • Super User
10 hours ago, Munkin said:

Flat eye hooks keep the line tie in the same position.  Straight eye the knot can move around. 

 

Allen 

The knot can’t  move up and down but it can move side to side. SD jam knot is very tight, the line tie didn’t move unless you snag the jig during the retrieve.

Tom

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@Choporoz, I use a loop knot so the jighead has full freedom of movement. I can't say it's really needed, but I think it gives it a better action. It keeps the line from influencing the jig from riding less than horizontal. I got the idea from watching those folks that rig crappie jigs, and they position the bait so it's horizontal using the knot to keep it there. I figured that the knot might negatively influence my jigheads some of the time.

 

I use the Kreh loop knot and I've caught a bunch of fish using the knot and it seems to be just as strong as any other knot I use.

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