I just got one of the Daiwa TD-Z reels I ordered from Cabelas last week, and I was expecting a nice quiet silky smooth reel. It sounds like their is something dragging or rubbing inside this thing. I hope it gets quieter. I'll koow more when I receive the 2nd one I ordered. It is however, not as silent as a new TD sol, but the handle does turn more freely on the TD-Z than the Sol.

If you are not impressed sell it.

If you are not impressed sell it.

Bingo!

Send it back. Cabela's has excellent customer service. They will take care of you.

Odd.  I have a couple TD-X's and they work great.  Perhaps you got a busted one?  

Odd. I have a couple TD-X's and they work great. Perhaps you got a busted one?

Not saying it doesn't work great, it's just that I was expecting silent operation. I'm hoping it will get quieter as it gets broken in, or maybe the grease hardened while it was on the shelf? It does feel smooth when you crank it's just that you can hear the spool turn.

NEW IN BOX and FRESH OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY LINE are not the same, specially with a discontinued reel that no one knows when it was assembled, those reels have been out of production for over a year in the case of the freshest ones.

"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:

Smooth, Silent and Strong."

Oops!

I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. :

Very subtle, RW

Maybe I spoke too soon. I received it at work and didn't really have time to fondle it. I got it home and lubricated the spool bearings and put it on a rod to see how it balances...nice. It's really smooth and balances nicely on my GLX. I'm glad I ordered two, so my Legend Elite can have one  8-), Dont want it to feel left out..

I'll give you $50 for that piece of junk.  8-)

Got mine today,  smooth as butter.

It should not grind or rub, but magnesium reels do have a different feel than aluminum framed reels...Shimano or Daiwa.  You can't compare a high-end Magnesium reel to a high end aluminum framed reel; they just have a different feel, more like a high performance sports car versus a luxury sedan.    I love my Mg50's, but TD-Z's just shame them.   Is this your first magnesium reel?   Regardless, if you are not happy with the reel, you have a great opportunity to make money on the reel.  I just purchased one off of Ebay last week for $290, which I thought was a great deal.  You are sure to make a decent profit on it.  

Re: Not impressed with TD-Z

Reply #7 - Yesterday at 8:11pm Quote

"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:

Smooth, Silent and Strong."

Oops!

I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company.  Roll Eyes

Wrong company and wrong reel style  ; these are baitcasting reels, whereas the S-Concept pertains to Shimano's line of spinning reels  .  

It should not grind or rub, but magnesium reels do have a different feel than aluminum framed reels...Shimano or Daiwa. You can't compare a high-end Magnesium reel to a high end aluminum framed reel; they just have a different feel, more like a high performance sports car versus a luxury sedan. I love my Mg50's, but TD-Z's just shame them. Is this your first magnesium reel? Regardless, if you are not happy with the reel, you have a great opportunity to make money on the reel. I just purchased one off of Ebay last week for $290, which I thought was a great deal. You are sure to make a decent profit on it.

Re: Not impressed with TD-Z

Reply #7 - Yesterday at 8:11pm Quote

"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:

Smooth, Silent and Strong."

Oops!

I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. Roll Eyes

Wrong company and wrong reel style ; these are baitcasting reels, whereas the S-Concept pertains to Shimano's line of spinning reels .

Well then, are the "S-concept" reels the Shimbindos?  :

"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:

Smooth, Silent and Strong."

Oops!

I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. :

I agree!! Every Daiwa that I've owned has made some sort of noise. Shimano's are much smoother/quieter. However, I've really taking a liking to my Revo STX's.  

There is a fundamental difference in the approach to high end reel design from Daiwa and Shimano.

Shimano goes for silent, silky smooth.

Daiwa goes for tight tolerences and prescision.

Of course that's not to say that Daiwa's areen't smooth or Shimano's aren't refined, but to use an automotive analogy it would go something like this.

Shimano = Cadillac.  Very smooth ride. the car floats over the road.

Daiwa = BMW.  Taut, responsive, you feel the road but it communicates rather than intrudes.

Right on Avid.  I'll take a BMW over a Cadillac anyday.

right on Avid

and also The_Natural, has it right on the $$. I have a few shimano's and TD and my TD veinto's have a better feel than My chronarch 100MG's. Don't get me wrong my MG's are great, and I will not be getting rid of them, but the new TD veinto's are so flawless. there is no play at all. and no sound

I think this is all personal preference. I received my Daiwa yesterday and was a little dissappointed with the smoothness of the reel. I do like the weight and will try it out this season. I personally like the Chronarch MGs and then my 100D's. I have A Scopion 1000 that I am not overally impressed with as I am spoiled with those Chronarchs. I bought my wife a couple of Revos and love them. I bought a Fuego and felt a Zebco 33 was smoother. To each their own.

Agree.....right on Avid.

I just got my TD-Z yesterday, and I think Raul is right and they have been out for a while, mine was bone dry but with a little bit of good oil, back to honoring its reputation. Sorry I didn't order 2 of them.

got my 3 105's today and noticed the same thing....but i know the solution-REELMECH! ;D ;D  One of my 100M's I purchased last year was a little 'rough' but after a trip to Kansas, smooth as butter.

the 2 that I took out of the package seems a little 'dry', but like has already been said, these could have been produced a few years ago.

Just to bring to some of you a little bit of perspective, I know, when you purchase a NIB you immediately assume the reel is fresh, don 't know why you assume such thing but that 's the way most people think so let 's take it as a given fact.

For how long the Sol has been in the market ? a couple of years, yup only a couple of years so the degree of freshness has to be more than on a discontnued reel which the manufacturer hasn 't assembled for at least a year before it was discontinued, japanese dealeres removed from their pages the TDZ long before american dealers did.

Returning to the point, the Sol has been in the market for a couple of years, most asume the reel is fresh which is anything but true. A friend of mine recently purchased a NIB Sol, he got the reel and told me as a complain that the spool didn 't rotate forever when spinned and the reel felt rough, why he told me this ? because I talked him in to purchasing that reel, in other words he was blaming me for purchasing a bad reel ...... hell, I didn 't assemble the reel, did I ? ok I told him that most probably the reel was not fresh out of the assembly line and that all it needed was some lubing, bring me the reel and I 'll do it ..... brought the reel with him I disassembled it, the grease looked fine but one thing is looking fine and another is being fine, I cleaned the parts and greased them, oiled the bearings, reassembled the reel and spooled in line.

The next week we went fishing and then he complained he was getting backlashes every other cast because the spool rotated too fast and he couldn 't control the beast.  :

Got my two today.  One spins smooth and quiet.  The other is noisy.  After a closer look I found that the chrome piece in front of the level wind is cracked.  The dilemma is do I return a reel I'd like to keep for a cash refund since they probably don't have anymore in stock or pay to get a brand new reel fixed out of my own pocket.  big

Got my two today. One spins smooth and quiet. The other is noisy. After a closer look I found that the chrome piece in front of the level wind is cracked. The dilemma is do I return a reel I'd like to keep for a cash refund since they probably don't have anymore in stock or pay to get a brand new reel fixed out of my own pocket. big

Send it back immediately and ask for a refund or a replacement, they still have some left.

Just called and they are out of the TD-Z's.  They gave me Diawa's number so I'll call and see if I can get a warrantee repair.  big