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where are g-blanks made at, i can't find any info about them

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http://www.imaginationbassin.com/gblanksproducts.htm

ls1jay - G. Loomis's brother bought out Shikari Blanks recently and that's the blanks G-Blanks uses also.

:)

Shikari blanks are awesome too! I have a couple in my collection.  

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Wow what a thread.... :)

Shimano buys G-Loomis and introduces the expeditor system, Gary's brother (part owner of ATC) buys Shikäri, and then they change the mandrels for some of the best blanks made (the SHX). Tons of BS back and forth on Kistler's rods.

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years...

I never knew there were so many rod experts out there.

Yeah the mud slinging on this thread has been kind of disappointing, although a little comical at times.  Some like them and some dont, just like eveyrthing else.   ;D

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Wow what a thread.... :)

Shimano buys G-Loomis and introduces the expeditor system, Gary's brother (part owner of ATC) buys Shikäri, and then they change the mandrels for some of the best blanks made (the SHX). Tons of BS back and forth on Kistler's rods.

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years...

I never knew there were so many rod experts out there.

Reel Mech, I never owned a Kistler blank but am seriously thinking of giving one a shot.

After sifting through all the posts, I feel a little a pushed-and-pulled without any solid direction.

I'd really like to hear your professional opinion of the Kistler LTX, any Pros or Cons that you might want to share.

Roger

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Reel Mech, I know this thread is full of BS and some people are misrepresenting certain products......so please drop some knowledge on these guys.

Also Reel Mech, have you ever FISHED a Kistler?

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years

Ok RM, you opened the door now you gotta walk through.

What's the misinformation you see?

What is the truth according to ReelMech?

respectfully,

avid.

PS.  If it wasn't for threads like this we could all resign after learning "How do I T-rig a plastic worm? ;D

Tons of BS back and forth on Kistler's rods.

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years...

I never knew there were so many rod experts out there.

Would you mind pointing out the "BS" & "misinformation" ?

Since you've been building rods for so long, maybe you can clear things up for us.

BTW, I'm being serious. I'm not trying to sound smart. I would just like to hear what you have to say about it.

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years

Ok RM, you opened the door now you gotta walk through.

What's the misinformation you see?

What is the truth according to ReelMech?

respectfully,

avid.

PS.  If it wasn't for threads like this we could all resign after learning "How do I T-rig a plastic worm? ;D

How do you T-rig a plastic worm Avid??  :)

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Tons of BS back and forth on Kistler's rods.

Wow figured most of you would be on a lake somewhere catching your PB's, on your favorite sticks, instead of feeding the longest thread on misinformation I have read in years...

I never knew there were so many rod experts out there.

Would you mind pointing out the "BS" & "misinformation" ?

Since you've been building rods for so long, maybe you can clear things up for us.

BTW, I'm being serious. I'm not trying to sound smart. I would just like to hear what you have to say about it.

Here is what I have to say about it_ _ _ _ _ _ _
Here is what I have to say about it_ _ _ _ _ _ _

That's what I thought!  :)

Yo Dave,

It seems like you wish you hadn't made your orininal post,

but dude.  You did.

And with some pretty strong comments.

Now it's time to back it up.

You can't claim to be an expert,

mock others for "BS" and "I never knew there were so many rod experts out there...laugh laugh.

and then make a joke instead of sharing your expertise.

It's not nice.

Not to mention that it does nothing to enhance your creditbility.

C'mon Dave, step up.

Be a mench.

i just wanna say ..... come on ,,,, what blank dose he use ???? CROIX ,,, yea he uses CROIX .... he is just classy ... so why try to bagg on a classy guy .... avid you have croix rods .... right ??? no one here in NE WI has kistlers rods .... so i wont say nodda about kistlers rods .... i will say i believe they dont  use the best componits ,,, i mean batson blanks and that co. makes gander guid series rods and every other main stream blank .... i mean you wouldent even try to compair it to a croix or loomis blank would you ???? heres the bottom line use what works ,,, FOR YOU

;''

and lets not talk about the reel seats or the clear or the fact that they are maid in china ,,,, more then likey next to the ulgly sticks .... :) must i go on >????? im stayin with CROIX made here in WI ,,, where i am ..... sorry TREY .... :) thats why you have to order the kistlers ,,, they do to ..... lol  :(

GOD BLESS  :-?

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and lets not talk about the reel seats or the clear or the fact that they are maid in china ,,,, more then likey next to the ulgly sticks .... :)

It's funny that most of the Kistler haters have never even fished one.....this thread gets better with each reply!  

i just wanna say ..... come on ,,,, what blank dose he use ???? CROIX ,,, yea he uses CROIX .... he is just classy ... so why try to bagg on a classy guy .... avid you have croix rods .... right ??? no one here in NE WI has kistlers rods .... so i wont say nodda about kistlers rods .... i will say i believe they dont  use the best componits ,,, i mean batson blanks and that co. makes gander guid series rods and every other main stream blank .... i mean you wouldent even try to compair it to a croix or loomis blank would you ???? heres the bottom line use what works ,,, FOR YOU

;''

Noone is slamming Dave, trust me, that will NEVER happen here, on this site.  The folks are simply asking for follow up from someone who's opinions are highly respected.

and lets not talk about the reel seats or the clear or the fact that they are maid in china ,,,, more then likey next to the ulgly sticks .... :)

It's funny that most of the Kistler haters have never even fished one.....this thread gets better with each reply!

I hope you all ain't throwing me in the Kistler haters that don't know what they are talking about, I'm not a fan really. I have a couple LTA rods here (and about everything else from the 1st Ugly Sticks- some Loomis GLX rods).

It's like buying a Lexus ...... you can pay the extra $$ if you choose to, but your still driving a Toyota.

(edited out)

In my opinion the LTA rods here fish about the same as the All Star Classic rods, the over blown price is the only bad thing about them to me. The G-Blanks are a step up in performance/quality and cost half the price.

just my .02

heres the bottom line use what works ,,, FOR YOU

Well, that's kinda what we all do.

but like I said earlier,

this forum would get old real quick if all we did was post for newbies on how to T-rig plastic worms

Respectful but animated discussion of technical issues keeps the forums lively for the experienced basser.

Not to mention all us cranky ole farts get to tell each other how smart we REALLY are  

Not to mention all us cranky ole farts get to tell each other how smart we REALLY are

I fit in to that category well except the smart part.............. I know I'm not the sharpest hook in the pack. :)

ls1jay,

Here is what I have to say about it_ _ _ _ _ _ _  

That's what I thought!

Avid,

Yo Dave,

It seems like you wish you hadn't made your orininal post,

but dude.  You did.

And with some pretty strong comments.

Now it's time to back it up.

You can't claim to be an expert,  

mock others for "BS" and "I never knew there were so many rod experts out there...laugh laugh.

and then make a joke instead of sharing your expertise.

It's not nice.

Not to mention that it does nothing to enhance your creditbility.

C'mon Dave, step up.

Be a mench.

Ok you guys won't accept that I made a comment and you need to have someone to argue with so here goes..

First off this thread started as a question about the warranty response of Kistler Rods.

The BS started with reply #7 when the originator of the thread answered his own question with I talked to Trey..

The thread continued onto a normal track with help from Dan, then all of a sudden Bass Pro reply #9 started in with Blade the originals thread poster, with the expert advise on the blank differences ...

The thread continues on with more help for Rolo from Dan..

Then all of a sudden Dan post a link to an interview with Trey on Tackle Tour..

I suspect everyone read that interview because it really upset a few folks, and they made their feelings be known a few replies later.

Just after that RW posted what I considered the only post that made sense in this thread and it just about hit the nail on the head as far as what the thread had been accomplishing to that point.

Then Blade came back with a shot at RW and what he thought RW should do and another opinion was in the mix.

A few more Kistler loyalist threw some responses into the mix and the thread moved on...

Then ls1jay, you with your first reply #18 your pushing the quote button from the natural and blade, and immediately start the bashing again. With some real hardcore bashing of Baston Ent...

Then a few more replies are thrown into the mix with personal preference opinions..

Then ls1jay, your back into the bashing mode again with your reply #23..

You don't have to look to far into the thread by this time to see a lot of the BS i'm laughing about...

Then Blade comes back, and ls1jay starts back peddling by not bashing anyone, but has already done quit a bit of it..More of the BS i'm laughing at..

The real crap hits the fan in Avids reply about the interview, and how much he is offended by a business owner skirting a question about who actually rolls the companies blanks.

Then the thread moves on to more comparisons from Bass Pro on Fuji and Pacbay.

Then ls1jay comes back with more comparisons on thread and lite vs highbuild epoxy, then more BS about cost and the research has been done on a retail price website who cares if you have been in a warehouse..

Oh and the final comment comparing PacBay to Fuji. FYI PacBay has been in litigation with Fuji for over 10+ years for cloning Fuji guides...

Then of course Bass Pro has to come back and feed this thread some more..

Then flechero comes in and replies basically the same as mine but you want my clarification, or is it just so that you can sling mud at my reply..

Moving on...

We get more price comparisons from ls1jay and Bass Pro and personal opinion that really has nothing to do with the originals thread..Remember it was a warranty question.....

Then ls1jay has a few words that he isn't posting BS here to Flechero it all fact..That's when it got funny for a minuet..

Then we get a comment that says go out and fish with what you got, after throwing another pros name into the mix as a reason to not like or own a certain manufacturers rod..More BS

Then we proceed to get some nice action pics of fish fighting with the rods in mention, but I don't see the actual rods in the pics, except for the floating rod. This pic has made the rounds of different forums..They get high scores from a few of the posters..

Then Avid starts in again with his negative remarks on the floating rod pics. WHO cares!!!

Then all of a sudden the thread becomes a comparison of another rod company and the original..

Then Blade whom we haven't heard from in a few replies starts with weight comparisons between the two rods.

The thread continues on with blank comparisons between Kistler and G-blank rods..

Then we get more information from the rod builder about who makes who's blanks and then more comments on the facts man these are just the facts....

Then more information on who has bought what company..

Then I posted mine "since been deleted"

This is what I made my comments on, a thread that started as a question on a rod companies warranty service became a bashing frenzy..

Then a amateur rod builder became the only expert on components and all of that information came from a retail warehouse. Not from building hundreds of rods form his own table, or even being in the rod building industry or learning from some of the best in the industry on the only forum there is for this kind of information.

All that I read and got from here is personal preferences and BS..now you have my points.

Four pages of it...I thought it was funny at times, and except for those that answered the original question, very misinforming through out.

Avid,

Well, that's kinda what we all do.

but like I said earlier,  

this forum would get old real quick if all we did was post for newbies on how to T-rig plastic worms

Respectful but animated discussion of technical issues keeps the forums lively for the experienced basser.

Not to mention all us cranky ole farts get to tell each other how smart we REALLY are

Then maybe you need to spend more time fishing than sitting in front of the PC.
ls1jay,
Here is what I have to say about it_ _ _ _ _ _ _  

That's what I thought!

Avid,

Yo Dave,

It seems like you wish you hadn't made your orininal post,

but dude.  You did.

And with some pretty strong comments.

Now it's time to back it up.

You can't claim to be an expert,  

mock others for "BS" and "I never knew there were so many rod experts out there...laugh laugh.

and then make a joke instead of sharing your expertise.

It's not nice.

Not to mention that it does nothing to enhance your creditbility.

C'mon Dave, step up.

Be a mench.

Ok you guys won't accept that I made a comment and you need to have someone to argue with so here goes..

First off this thread started as a question about the warranty response of Kistler Rods.

The BS started with reply #7 when the originator of the thread answered his own question with I talked to Trey..

The thread continued onto a normal track with help from Dan, then all of a sudden Bass Pro reply #9 started in with Blade the originals thread poster, with the expert advise on the blank differences ...

The thread continues on with more help for Rolo from Dan..

Then all of a sudden Dan post a link to an interview with Trey on Tackle Tour..

I suspect everyone read that interview because it really upset a few folks, and they made their feelings be known a few replies later.

Just after that RW posted what I considered the only post that made sense in this thread and it just about hit the nail on the head as far as what the thread had been accomplishing to that point.

Then Blade came back with a shot at RW and what he thought RW should do and another opinion was in the mix.

A few more Kistler loyalist threw some responses into the mix and the thread moved on...

Then ls1jay, you with your first reply #18 your pushing the quote button from the natural and blade, and immediately start the bashing again. With some real hardcore bashing of Baston Ent...

Then a few more replies are thrown into the mix with personal preference opinions..

Then ls1jay, your back into the bashing mode again with your reply #23..

You don't have to look to far into the thread by this time to see a lot of the BS i'm laughing about...

Then Blade comes back, and ls1jay starts back peddling by not bashing anyone, but has already done quit a bit of it..More of the BS i'm laughing at..

The real crap hits the fan in Avids reply about the interview, and how much he is offended by a business owner skirting a question about who actually rolls the companies blanks.

Then the thread moves on to more comparisons from Bass Pro on Fuji and Pacbay.

Then ls1jay comes back with more comparisons on thread and lite vs highbuild epoxy, then more BS about cost and the research has been done on a retail price website who cares if you have been in a warehouse..

Oh and the final comment comparing PacBay to Fuji. FYI PacBay has been in litigation with Fuji for over 10+ years for cloning Fuji guides...

Then of course Bass Pro has to come back and feed this thread some more..

Then flechero comes in and replies basically the same as mine but you want my clarification, or is it just so that you can sling mud at my reply..

Moving on...

We get more price comparisons from ls1jay and Bass Pro and personal opinion that really has nothing to do with the originals thread..Remember it was a warranty question.....

Then ls1jay has a few words that he isn't posting BS here to Flechero it all fact..That's when it got funny for a minuet..

Then we get a comment that says go out and fish with what you got, after throwing another pros name into the mix as a reason to not like or own a certain manufacturers rod..More BS

Then we proceed to get some nice action pics of fish fighting with the rods in mention, but I don't see the actual rods in the pics, except for the floating rod. This pic has made the rounds of different forums..They get high scores from a few of the posters..

Then Avid starts in again with his negative remarks on the floating rod pics. WHO cares!!!

Then all of a sudden the thread becomes a comparison of another rod company and the original..

Then Blade whom we haven't heard from in a few replies starts with weight comparisons between the two rods.

The thread continues on with blank comparisons between Kistler and G-blank rods..

Then we get more information from the rod builder about who makes who's blanks and then more comments on the facts man these are just the facts....

Then more information on who has bought what company..

Then I posted mine "since been deleted"

This is what I made my comments on, a thread that started as a question on a rod companies warranty service became a bashing frenzy..

Then a amateur rod builder became the only expert on components and all of that information came from a retail warehouse. Not from building hundreds of rods form his own table, or even being in the rod building industry or learning from some of the best in the industry on the only forum there is for this kind of information.

All that I read and got from here is personal preferences and BS..now you have my points.

Four pages of it...I thought it was funny at times, and except for those that answered the original question, very misinforming through out.

Avid,

Well, that's kinda what we all do.

but like I said earlier,  

this forum would get old real quick if all we did was post for newbies on how to T-rig plastic worms

Respectful but animated discussion of technical issues keeps the forums lively for the experienced basser.

Not to mention all us cranky ole farts get to tell each other how smart we REALLY are

Then maybe you need to spend more time fishing than sitting in front of the PC.

Man, that sure is a lot of reading. BTW, I don't recall "back pedaling" ? You can say what you want. I still don't care for Batson. Apparently you don't either since you push Fuji on your website!  :)  Can't we just agree to disagree?  8-) Life goes on. Let's debate Zebco rods now!  ;D

...then all of a sudden Bass Pro reply #9 started in with Blade the originals thread poster, with the expert advise on the blank differences

First of all, I never said I was an expert nor do I claim to be one. What I did say was the FACTS and the truth about the blank. I have an LTA 6'9'' MH and an LTX 6'9'' MH and they both do in fact have different tapers. The LTA has a slower more moderate action whereas the LTX has a much faster action. I was also told by several people at Kistler, Trey included, that the LTX is higher mod graphaite. Fishing both rods side by side, I would say that they (Kistler) are telling the truth, due to the fact that the LTX is more sensitive and a lighter rod. Since you know so much about rods, you will surely know that increased sensitivity and a lighter blank usually indicates higher mod graphite being used in the construction of the blank.  :)

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Can't we just agree to disagree?

Sounds good to me......everybody in?

Locked, let's move along, there's nothing left to say here.

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