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I am going to be purchasing a new spinner bait set up this year and this is what i was thinking:

Shimano Citica...not sure what size yet

St Croix AV66MF

30lb Sufix Performance Braid

Does this seem alright?  Also what model of that reel should i go with?

Thanks

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As long as you have a medium heavy rod you will be good and 6'6" is perfect imo.

For reels, Revo S or Abu Garcia Pro Max.

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I think the absolute best spinnerbait rod out there is the G Loomis SBR812C (or the SBR813C if you tend to use a little larger bait).  As far as reels go, I like the 100 version of the Citica and Curado.  The 200 is just not as comfortible to me (and I don't like a high gear ratio for spinnerbaits), but it is a personal preference.

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MH from 6'6" to 7' has worked really well for me.  IMHO you don't need to break the bank with a high end rod for spinnerbaits- they are either on or off this type of bait, sensitivity is not as important as worm/jig rod.

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I agree with the 6'6" rod in MH for spinnerbaits.  I have 3 different ones that I use and when I am using my IMX MH I can feel subtle strikes that I wouldn't even know about with my other rods.

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I am going to be purchasing a new spinner bait set up this year and this is what i was thinking:

Shimano Citica...not sure what size yet

St Croix AV66MF

30lb Sufix Performance Braid

Does this seem alright? Also what model of that reel should i go with?

Thanks

YES!

I would go with the Citica 100, it will balance better with that rod.

BTW, I have the Avid AC66MF.

I don't fish braid, but it will work if that's what you are comfortable with.

8-)

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The best spinnerbait rod I have found personally was made by Shimano (pre-crucial days).  It was a 6'10" MH but with a very light tip.  I love that particular rod for roll casting baits under docks and overhanging brush.  I feel that it is pretty important to find a rod with a parabolic action in order to have the most control when roll casting.  The slightly longer length compensates for the lighter tip when it comes to moving big fish out of heavy cover.

I would agree with the 100 size reel.  I had a Curado 200 on mine but swapped it out for a Revo STX mainly due to the size different.  The Curado 200 is just too much bulk for me.

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Oh yeah the pre-crucial rod I was refering to was the V-Rod.  If anyone knows of one they are wanting to sell I have this little furry friend who is sitting next to me and he really wants to have a back up for this rod.

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Oh yeah the pre-crucial rod I was refering to was the V-Rod. If anyone knows of one they are wanting to sell I have this little furry friend who is sitting next to me and he really wants to have a back up for this rod.

The V-Rod is a loomis blank made in the US- one of the best shimano rods ever made- a friend of mine has 3 of them.

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Oh yeah the pre-crucial rod I was refering to was the V-Rod. If anyone knows of one they are wanting to sell I have this little furry friend who is sitting next to me and he really wants to have a back up for this rod.

The V-Rod is a loomis blank made in the US- one of the best shimano rods ever made- a friend of mine has 3 of them.

I've got a couple of V Rods laying around here somewhere  :P...they are sweet rods indeed.

Back on topic, I like a MH but I don't use braid with a spinnerbait like you. I've got a Jimmy Houston Shimano casting rod (6'6") that has the shorter straight handle which is critical when roll casting under obstructions. The MH gives me the power to lay down a solid hookset and get their head turned in the right direction fast.  

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Thanks everyone, im not for sure if i am gonna use braid i was just kicking around the idea...whats your opinion on using braid for spinnerbaits?

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I fish very clear water most of the time and I simply don't like using braid in ultra clear water....especially fishing shallow. I'm more inclined to use braid with something that I fish on the bottom, real deep, where it's nice and dark and when I really need the added sensitivity that braid offers. (Carolina Rig, Jig)

It's certainly not the worst idea I've ever heard, but on most moving baits I prefer mono....and thats probably a confidence thing thats built up over the years before braid was around and I usually won't change anything that isn't broke. Try the braid, it might be perfect for you.

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I agree with 5Bass on this.  Probably the only time I would use braid on a spinnerbait is in extremely heavy cover (IE throwing way back into reeds in FL) or fishing a spinnerbait in grass where you need to clear it of grass.  I would only use braid if I was fishing off colored water also.

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MH from 6'6" to 7' has worked really well for me. IMHO you don't need to break the bank with a high end rod for spinnerbaits- they are either on or off this type of bait, sensitivity is not as important as worm/jig rod.

I agree with this, don't spend alot for a rod for spinnerbaits. You can get some good rods at Bass Pro or anywhere for that matter. As for the reel I would go with the Citica 100 also, great reel and they have a great rebate on them. Check out Delo's web site, he is a sponsor here.

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Well i think im going to scratch the braid idea.  After browsing through the site i think im going to go with fluorocarbon and give the Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon a try.  Also if i bump the rod up to MH could it be used both as a spinnerbait and jig rod?

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I think your "set-up" doesn't have any "give" in it.

I like a little(or more) softness when I'm fishing mooving baits (crancks, spinners, buzzers ,etc).

The reason is the way bass inhales its prey : opens its mouth realy fast sucking in the prey and water at the same time; then closes its mouth and opens its gills and gets rid of the water. Most of the times a bass will attack it's prey from the side or below, sometimes from behind. There has to be a moment when the trajectory of the bait is changed allowing to be sucked in the mouth of the fish. That moment is created by the "give" in the rod and line.

You don't need sensitivity for spinnerbaiting. I bet that guys fishing fast/ X-fast rods will feel a couple more "attacks" but I also think they miss a lot of them.

I tryed Fenwick HMG, Shimano clarus, Cabelas in 6-6 MH , and ended up using a BPS graphite( $19.99 in sale). I am thinking of getting a KVD Spinnerbait rod( wich is even softer; I should of bought it when BPS had it in clearance )

Overall , the ideal SB rod for me would be 6-6 MH power, mod-fast action(or maby moderate action ???).

Just my $.02

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I think your "set-up" doesn't have any "give" in it.

I like a little(or more) softness when I'm fishing mooving baits (crancks, spinners, buzzers ,etc).

The reason is the way bass inhales its prey : opens its mouth realy fast sucking in the prey and water at the same time; then closes its mouth and opens its gills and gets rid of the water. Most of the times a bass will attack it's prey from the side or below, sometimes from behind. There has to be a moment when the trajectory of the bait is changed allowing to be sucked in the mouth of the fish. That moment is created by the "give" in the rod and line.

You don't need sensitivity for spinnerbaiting. I bet that guys fishing fast/ X-fast rods will feel a couple more "attacks" but I also think they miss a lot of them.

I tryed Fenwick HMG, Shimano clarus, Cabelas in 6-6 MH , and ended up using a BPS graphite( $19.99 in sale). I am thinking of getting a KVD Spinnerbait rod( wich is even softer; I should of bought it when BPS had it in clearance )

Overall , the ideal SB rod for me would be 6-6 MH power, mod-fast action(or maby moderate action ???).

Just my $.02

Now that's an interesting perspective on spinnerbaits. I can count on one hand how many times I've casted a spinnerbait in the last 15 years. I tried them a lot many years ago, with very little success. I think I'm going to try throwing them with my new crankbait rod and see what happens. I still have them after all this time, and some of the skirts are still good. :P

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Good setup for spinner baits but I would drop the braid because I feel you will pull the bait away from the bass if you set hook to soon.

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I'm using a 6'3" Castaway Spinnerbait rod.  MH, moderate action.  No problems.  Curado 100D. 12# Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

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I thought the reason for using a medium action rod with mono on cranks was so that the treble hooks would work well.  Since a spinner bait has a single hook would it make sense to use that medium action rod with braid for spinnerbaits?  Then the bass could inhale it and you would still be able to get a better hookset.

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I am not using braid on any (fast)moving bait. I use Tectan Premium  Plus (Cabelas) on warm weather, Trilene XL on cold weather.

I use thin line because where I fish the water is fairly open and the fish are not that big( my pb is only 5-09lb). The specs on the Tectan line  I use most of the time say: 0.25mm( that's about 0.095) and breaking strength of 13.9lb. It is not as soft as some other lines(like Trilene XL) in cold weather/water but it's much thinner than other lines and I realy like it.

Now imagine a spinnerbait traveling at a speed of 8-12 inches/second, a bass comming up on it from behind and trying to suck it in; that bait has to move about 6" BACKWORDS to get in his mouth ! If you keep reeling and there in no "give" in your rod and line, that bait is not gonna go backwords at all. You might feel a "tick" in your X-fast and sensitive rod and no strech braid, know it was a bass and also know you missed it.

I don't think a medium power/moderate action rod is good for SBs unless it has a realy strong but section and is capable of setting the hook properly(remember that you have strech in your line and a bit of softness in your rod). Go for a Med, if you are throwing light SBs(less than 1/4 oz);  above 1/4oz is Med-heavy in my book.

Tight lines

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MH from 6'6" to 7' has worked really well for me.  IMHO you don't need to break the bank with a high end rod for spinnerbaits- they are either on or off this type of bait, sensitivity is not as important as worm/jig rod.

I agree with this, don't spend alot for a rod for spinnerbaits. You can get some good rods at Bass Pro or anywhere for that matter.

Which of the BPS rods would you suggest?

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I use a 7' Team All Star medium with a Revo S and it's been a great setup for me.

You can get some good deals when Academy has their Rod Riots and BPS always has one of their line on sale.

I tend to stick with 15lb Big Game as I am usually throwing the SB in hydrilla and timber and I've yet to lose a fish with it due to line breakage, including a 9.04 that got caught in the thick-arse 'drilla.

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