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I have been using flurocarbon on about every reel I have had for the past 3 years.  Haven't used mono in a long time but I'm ready to try some again.  I've broke enough fish off on the hookset recently to make me want to try something else.

I love flurocarbons low stretch and abrasion resistance.  What mono line comes the closest in those two areas?

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Raul's been fishing Trilene XT for more than 25 years. A bunch

of guys (including Catt?) fish Big Game. Rather than mono, I

would suggest a copolymer: Gamma, P-Line CXX or Yo-Zuri

Hybrid. All three of these lines significantly exceed their implied

breaking strength. For example, P-Line CXX #17 is almost 24 lbs,

but seems stronger! I guarantee you will NEVER break P-Line CXX

on a hook-set unless there is another issue.

8-)

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I have been using flurocarbon on about every reel I have had for the past 3 years. Haven't used mono in a long time but I'm ready to try some again. I've broke enough fish off on the hookset recently to make me want to try something else.

I love flurocarbons low stretch and abrasion resistance. What mono line comes the closest in those two areas?

Whoa Whoa !! there pardner. Sounds like there are two things going on here. #1, breaking off on hooksets. #2 wanting to try something else.

I'm not advocating Not changing line on some of your rigs, but do it for the right reason so you'll be more content down the road.

When you're breaking off, is it the knot breaking? (a little curley Q on the end)

if it's this then we have a knotty problem.

or is the line breaking above the knot?

Are you checking for nicks & abrasion frequently and retying enough?

Also have you tried a different brand of FC line?

Now on to my opinions, I use FC on my worm rods, this includes light cover jigs. Mono on my treble hook & Spinner bait rods and braid on my swimbait and frog rods.

I'm not going to get into brand names, I'll leave that to others.

Just some things to think about given the information you put out there.

Tight lines.

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You should also check your guides get a q-tip and run around the guide inserts had this problem about a year ago and that is what it was a small nick in one of the guides. If that is not the problem I would go with the P-Line Cxx also like Roadwarrior said you will not break it on the hookset.

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I would go with some Yo-Zuri Hybrid. Best line I have ever used by far, just wish I didn't have to drive an hour to Bass Pro to get it, and then find out that the size and color I want are out of stock >:).

The line is extremely versatile and I have used it anywhere from open water, to rocky points, to flipping thick, heavy grass. Buy a spool and try the stuff.

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Don't thnk you could go wrong with either P-Line or Yo-Zuri Hybrid.  I have 12lb Yo-Zuri on my spinning set-up and it works great.  The rest of my set-ups are filled with some sort of P-Line.  I crank with 12lb Flouro-clear, 10-12lb CXX for spinnerbaits and t-rig, 15lb CX for jigs and big worms, and 20lb CXX for swimbaits.

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Here are the details.

I've tried Seagur, P-Line, Bass Pro,&  Trilene 100% flurocarbon - thought about trying Viscious.  I had kind of settled on Bass Pro's version (figure if it is good enough for KVD, then it ought to be for me).  I use line conditioner on it before every trip.  Never had a big problem with breaking off hooksets until the last few trips.  Also broke a few lures off casting (heavier baits like Pointers and big spinnerbaits) earlier this spring - but that was on 10 # line which was smaller than I usually use.

I'm fishing Lake of the Ozarks and dragging a shakey football head through rocks (1/4 and 3/8 ounce heads with brush hogs and space monkeys).  Getting a bunch of keeper bites - but I've also broke 4 off on hooksets in two trips.  I've never really crawled anything along the bottom like I'm doing with these (more of a hop) so I know part of it is my line is getting nicked.  I've started to check and retie a lot more often.   Still broke a couple off.  I wasn't sure if the knot was the problem or not.  I'm using a cinch knot and wetting the line before pulling tight.  Started doubling the line through the eye and still broke one off.   I've looked at my line but I'm not sure if it is breaking at the knot or up the line, sometimes it has the curl on the end others not.

I'm using a new Falcon Cara rod so I doubt it is the guides but I need to check.  

A couple of my friends still use mono for everything and won't even consider flurocarbon (and they are much better fisherman than I am).  I finally have just decided to use it on one rod and see if I like it or not.  Just want something abrasion resistant and without much stretch (and hopefully a lot less memory than flurocarbon as a bonus).

I've used Yo-zuri Hybrid before but only in smaller sizes.  

Thanks

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I'm fishing Lake of the Ozarks and dragging a shakey football head through rocks

you are probably getting the line nicked up in the rocks... in addition to whatever you do, start checking and retying more often. That will probably solve most of your trouble. The other thing is to be sure your knots are tied correctly.

I've been using XT since about 1985. I try a new lines or two each year and keep going back to XT. It has its drawbacks (memory, if you don't respool very often) but there isn't a stronger, more abrasion resistant mono to try... I use a couple other for certain applications but as an all around- it's still XT.

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Don't try vicious, it's a waste of money, I know it cheap and you can tell. It's stiff, terrible manageability, and for large sizes, doesn't tie very well.  I say go with a co-poly.

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Don't try vicious, it's a waste of money, I know it cheap and you can tell. It's stiff, terrible manageability, and for large sizes, doesn't tie very well. I say go with a co-poly.

X2

I like Trilene XT for mono and BPS XPS for fluoro

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I'm fishing Lake of the Ozarks and dragging a shakey football head through rocks

you are probably getting the line nicked up in the rocks... in addition to whatever you do, start checking and retying more often. That will probably solve most of your trouble. The other thing is to be sure your knots are tied correctly.

I've been using XT since about 1985. I try a new lines or two each year and keep going back to XT. It has its drawbacks (memory, if you don't respool very often) but there isn't a stronger, more abrasion resistant mono to try... I use a couple other for certain applications but as an all around- it's still XT.

Ah man...what he said!!  My story is exactly the same except the only other lines I've tried in the last 20 yrs is Trilene 100% Flouro and Big Game.  I'm stuck on XT Clear and stayin' right here!!!  

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Yo-Zuri is the best line I've ever tried.  I really see no need to try anything else.  However, before getting hooked on Yo-Zuri I tried Gamma.  If RW recommends it, it must have some redeeming quality.  But the spool I bought and tried was overpriced garbage.   I wouldn't mind trying P-Line.  

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Don't try vicious, it's a waste of money, I know it cheap and you can tell. It's stiff, terrible manageability, and for large sizes, doesn't tie very well. I say go with a co-poly.

I just bought a spool of 15# Vicious Fluorocarbon and 8# Vicious Fluorocarbon and I don't see it any less manageable than Yo-Zuri Hybrid.

If you're breaking off that often then I may suggest that you use some 50-65# braided line and tie on a much heavier (say 17-20# test) fluorocarbon leader. I don't recommend that you do this for all of your rigs, but at least for the rigs that you're dragging through the rocks.

Also, is it possible that you might have gotten a rotten batch of line?

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