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Ern

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Well I have not tried Power Pro on my light outfit, Shimano Symetre 1000FJ and St Croix 6' Light action.

DON'T care for it either.

Picked up a 100yrds spool of this stuff in 8lb strength/1 lb diameter.

Gave it a try out today. Spooled the line tight and kept it tight on the reel too. Closed the bail manually. Do that with all my spinning reels.

It did do better than the others but......

1) I could see the twists in the line after fishing it maybe 10 casts. Made the line VERY LIGHT REFLECTIVE! No memory or rod wrap, but visible twisting. could actually slide the twists on the line by pinching the line and moving the pinch down the line. Weird.

2) Casting distance was REDUCED. Right from the start. And got worse to a point then seemed to just hover at taking 1/3 of my casting distance.

3) Very wind resistant. Seem to be caught by every breeze. Leaving a more slack than I would like at the end of the cast.

4) Actual spooling diameter is not the CLAIMED diameter. Noticed this with every SUPER LINE. That 100 yrd spool MAXXED OUT my reel. Looks like the CLAIMED diameter should be closure to what diameter IS. I thnk they just try and pull a Number. This 1lb diameter on the Power Pro is more like a 5LB. Like I said not just PP but all the SUPER LINES.

SO I Pulled the line back off my reel and back to its spool. (Love my drill). I picked up a spool of mono on the way home.

I now have a spool of 99 yards of PP 8/1 I gave $13.00 for and another 150 yard. spool of 80/18 that I aint using.

Wish I could get my money back. Id buy mono.

Ern

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Works a lot better on casting reels IMO. ALSO, Power Pro is the worst at line twists and stiffness! Suffix or FireLine Braid is A LOT BETTER!!

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I agree with the above, that brid is better suited to baitcast reels.

braid has the advantage of very little to no streatch, superb strength per diameter. Otherwise, I don't see advatages. It is hard on reel and rod guies, frays, has little abrasion resistance. It can lead to rod breakage due to the fact that the line doesn't give and puts all the forces back into the rod. It can lead to some nasty finger and hand cuts. It ican be touchy on knot retention.

I have Power Pro braid on my catfishing rigs only because casting like 65# test mono would be like casting wire.

These are my opinions and may be completely different for what others think.

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i will give u a trick with power pro, soak it in hot salt water over night. it will make it less stiff. It is all I use and love it. and while I have not used fire line in a while, it was always very stiff and lost its color and I hated it.

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I have been using 15# Power Pro on a 1500 size spinning reel for two years now.  Works great.  I haven't seen ANY of the issues you have listed.  One issue I did have is tip wrap.  This is easily resolved by using a longer fluoro leader, about 12 feet.  I don't really care about diameter claims, but I do want the break strength to be close to the claim.  No issues there, either.

Here's a fish I caught this spring using that very set up to deliver a drop shot 4" Power Worm into a smallie bed.

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i will give u a trick with power pro, soak it in hot salt water over night. it will make it less stiff. It is all I use and love it. and while I have not used fire line in a while, it was always very stiff and lost its color and I hated it.

Wouldn't this be bad fr the reel itself? I'd be real hesitant to put line on that was salt soaked and leave it there like that. I'd have to think that is asking for corrosion issues.

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I have been using 15# Power Pro on a 1500 size spinning reel for two years now. Works great. I haven't seen ANY of the issues you have listed. One issue I did have is tip wrap. This is easily resolved by using a longer fluoro leader, about 12 feet. I don't really care about diameter claims, but I do want the break strength to be close to the claim. No issues there, either.

Here's a fish I caught this spring using that very set up to deliver a drop shot 4" Power Worm into a smallie bed.

543366746_Q3ewm-M-2.jpg

x2 I love PowerPro.

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I don't use spinning reels, so I have to ask why do you need braid on a pan fish outfit? I think you spooled it wrong. I use the fifty, and sixty five pound on a daily basis for traps, mid range cranks, and football jigs. You screwed up somewhere along the way.

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i will give u a trick with power pro, soak it in hot salt water over night. it will make it less stiff. It is all I use and love it. and while I have not used fire line in a while, it was always very stiff and lost its color and I hated it.

I wouldn't do this, the object is to rid your line of the salt, I rinse with freshwater then spray with salt X to remove residue.

I use braid on every spinning reel I own, never a line twist issue.  I use 10-15-20#(my choice is PP all stores have it, but I don't get all worked up over brand).  I would never consider using mono.

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I just noticed that you said you are using 8lb braid with 1lb diameter. Are your reel and rod rated for 1lb line?

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i will give u a trick with power pro, soak it in hot salt water over night. it will make it less stiff. It is all I use and love it. and while I have not used fire line in a while, it was always very stiff and lost its color and I hated it.

How do you keep the water hot all night?

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i use 6/20 fireline braid on spinning with no issues.

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Braid on spinning = no loop jumping & no twists

mono on spinning = inevitable line twist

When I went to braid my frustration level with spinning reels went down by  x 20

You've got to be doing something wrong or just way different than most

I use Stren Superbraid but I've used others but I had no line twist with them either.

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You folks seem to be confusing the twisting with wraping and "wind knots".  The line Twisted.  You could see it. You could feel the twist in the line. You could move the twist on the line.

I never said it wraped the tip, reel, or the itself.  No memory is true.

I thought I would love it.  I couldn't see it against about anything dark colored 2' in front of me. With the twist the line became very visible.

What I wanted in the line was a high strength/low diameter line as to put more low visiblity line on the reel.  

Ern

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I have the 8/1 Power Pro on three different spinning combos and would not even think about changing until I see a good reason to.  I have never used a line so perfect for spinning and I use spinning for about 75% of my bass since its mostly dropshotting and shakey head.  I have the PP on three different Shimano Stradics (MgFB, FI, and one old white one) and all work the same.  I do agree that you can see the line twists with PP, but imagine if you could see the twists in mono...........i'm sure it would be scary.  As far as casting, I have never had anything except maybe 6lb Fireline that cast even anywhere near as far as 8lb PP.  Not sure what went wrong with yours as I a believe that its as close to perfect as it gets for light spinning.

Matt

p.s. I always use a 3-6 foot flouro leader, not sure if it makes a difference or not in how the line fishes.

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You folks seem to be confusing the twisting with wraping and "wind knots". The line Twisted. You could see it. You could feel the twist in the line. You could move the twist on the line.

I never said it wraped the tip, reel, or the itself. No memory is true.

I thought I would love it. I couldn't see it against about anything dark colored 2' in front of me. With the twist the line became very visible.

What I wanted in the line was a high strength/low diameter line as to put more low visiblity line on the reel.

Ern

I have no idea what you mean by line twist that you could "move on the line." I have never experienced that issue with braid.

Again, are the rod and reel that you are using rated for 1lb test?

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Maybe when you spooled it, you went the opposite way and induced twist?  I was out of town this past weekend and found out my relatives had a mecca of a bass pond in their subdivision.  I borrowed a cheap Gander spinning combo that they had and got rid of 1/2 of the cheap mono (broke off on some hooksets) and spooled on 15 lbs Ppro.

When you spool a spinning reel you need to check every so often by dropping the line slack on the floor to see if it's coiling and if so you need to reverse the way you have it coming off the spool.  You probably know this but just in case.

Anyways - no memory, twist or any problems with the 15lbs ppro and this Gander spinning reel.  It worked superbly.

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i use 6/20 fireline braid on spinning with no issues.

firelinebraid.jpg

Correct me if I'm wrong Dodge,

but you were once a PowerPro guy who moved to Sufix braid,

and now I see you're an advocate of Fireline braid.

Though I skipped over Sufix (tried it, but didn't like it), I too was a PowerPro advocate

who has moved to "Berkley Fireline Tracer Braid".

Don't get me wrong, I love everything about PowerPro for spinning tackle, but with one glaring exception.

I apparently encountered a bad bulk spool, and my wife and I were both breaking off big bass on a regular basis.

Sure enough, an Internet search revealed that PowerPro themselves admitted to having QA issues.

Not surprisingly, PowerPro will replace any bad spools, but you can't replace lost bass.

I'm not looking for Six Sigma perfection, but IMO the quality control at PowerPro is unacceptable.

Fortunately, Berkley Fireline braid possesses all the same positive attributes I found in PowerPro,

but without inexplicable breakage.

By The Way:

Most anglers would agree that "braided polyethylene" is better suited to spinning tackle than to baitcasting gear.

In my opinion, the line materials best suited to baitcasting are the three monofilament lines (fluoro, nylon & copolymer).

In the same camp are KVD and Dance who prefer fluoro mono for baitcasting, several on the forum who prefer nylon mono

for baitcasting (e.g. Trilene Big Game), and many who prefer copolymer mono (e.g. Sufix Siege, Yo Zuri & P-Line CXX).

Roger

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I dont get the twist either.

Wasnt there when I spooled up.

Developed after fishing.

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I dont get the twist either.

Wasnt there when I spooled up.

Developed after fishing.

Then you'll have this issue with ANY line you use.  The solution is to troll the line behind the boat after it develops.

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i use 6/20 fireline braid on spinning with no issues.

firelinebraid.jpg

Correct me if I'm wrong Dodge,

but you were once a PowerPro guy who moved to Sufix braid,

and now I see you're an advocate of Fireline braid.

Though I skipped over Sufix (tried it, but didn't like it), I too was a PowerPro advocate

who has moved to "Berkley Fireline Tracer Braid".

Don't get me wrong, I love everything about PowerPro for spinning tackle, but with one glaring exception.

I apparently encountered a bad bulk spool, and my wife and I were both breaking off big bass on a regular basis.

Sure enough, an Internet search revealed that PowerPro themselves admitted to having QA issues.

Not surprisingly, PowerPro will replace any bad spools, but you can't replace lost bass.

I'm not looking for Six Sigma perfection, but IMO the quality control at PowerPro is unacceptable.

Fortunately, Berkley Fireline braid possesses all the same positive attributes I found in PowerPro,

but without inexplicable breakage.

By The Way:

Most anglers would agree that "braided polyethylene" is better suited to spinning tackle than to baitcasting gear.

In my opinion, the line materials best suited to baitcasting are the three monofilament lines (fluoro, nylon & copolymer).

In the same camp are KVD and Dance who prefer fluoro mono for baitcasting, several on the forum who prefer nylon mono

for baitcasting (e.g. Trilene Big Game), and many who prefer copolymer mono (e.g. Sufix Siege, Yo Zuri & P-Line CXX).

Roger

Finally, somebody with some sense! Well said ROLO!!!

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I have been using 20lb suffix braid on my spinning rigs for 2 years without a single issue. It works great.

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I have had my issues with Power Pro. In my opinion it gets flat spots and frays more easily than other notable brands.  That said it is still superior than mono when it comes to line twist issues.  Try Daiwa Samurai or Stren's Superbraid if you can, they are IMO much better braids.

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