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Yo-Zuri Hybrid questions

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-Best, or worst, of both worlds?

-Does it sink or float, or something in between?

-Diameter to break strength?

Line is expensive. Hate to end up with something I don't like.

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On this forum there are alot of products that keep coming up as a "must have". When people are naming them and they keep coming up i generally order them from TW. So far everything that i have bought has lived up to the hype. Senko's , Fat Ikas, Lucky craft lures, Rage tail baits and sufix mono to name a few are all great products. Another that i found on this site was Yo-Zuri Hybrid. Everybody raves about Yo zuri and after trying it i really liked it. It is a very good line. I never broke off with it. I use the 12lb clear on my curado E5 and my E7. and compared to other lines it is cheap just buy it in bulk spools. Talk with RW hes the " yo-zuri hybrid ambassador " on this site.

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The line is NOT expensive.

http://www.fish307.com/yo-zurihybridline.aspx

Here are the details:

http://015d0c6.netsolhost.com/Products/ProdLine/Hybrid.htm

The chart at the bottom lists specs:

http://015d0c6.netsolhost.com/Products/ProdLine/HybridLineChart.htm

Note: Hybrid is a bonded, not coated,

nylon/ fluorocarbon copolymer. #6 has

a diameter of .010" and breaking strength

of 11.9 lbs. #12 is .013" diameter, 19.5 lb

breaking strength. The line floats as a result

of surface tension, but is not buoyant. This

has no effect on topwater or subsurface baits

or lures.

8-)

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Price is all relative...the line lasts, doesn't break off like mono..

The ultrasoft is da bomb yo... 8-)

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The float vs sink Flouro vs mono discussion....

IMO the real advantage is when using spinning gear. The more direct contact with Flouro helps to eliminate the bow that can happen using spinning gear with light weight lures. Especially with high winds.

In my observation  the Y/Z provides a much more direct contact with your lure. Much closer to 100% Flourocarbon than traditional mono.

Whether due to the flouro content or the smaller diameter than other lines I don't know. But it is something I noticed immediately.

I originally tried this line before hearing of it here because a local Wal Mart sold it for $8 for a 1/4 spool. The no longer sell it though so my last spool came from tackle307 and they were GREAT.

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The only thing in direct contact with the fish is the hook ---> don 't "save" on cheap hooks.

The only link between you and the fish is the line ---> don 't "save" on cheap line.

At the price it 's got vs the performance you get Hybrid is dirt cheap if you ask me. I 've tried more expensive lines and they are nowhere near as good.

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So...why don't companies rate their lines at the actual break strength -or even close? Makes it impossible to compare.

Diameter is what effects presentation parameters most. After this, we can stat talking about other useful attributes.

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So...why don't companies rate their lines at the actual break strength -or even close? Makes it impossible to compare.

Diameter is what effects presentation parameters most. After this, we can stat talking about other useful attributes.

"little corporal " syndrome.

as far as yo hybrid, after using it, i quit looking for another tip-down line.

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So...why don't companies rate their lines at the actual break strength -or even close? Makes it impossible to compare.

Diameter is what effects presentation parameters most. After this, we can stat talking about other useful attributes.

Because people will talk about how strong their line is if they underrate it on the box. P-Line CXX comes to mind.

In the case of Y/Z if you compare the diameter of it to other lines with the same rating Y/Z is many times smaller in diameter. Yet still has a higher break strength.

Small diameter and high break strength=WIN.

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So...why don't companies rate their lines at the actual break strength -or even close? Makes it impossible to compare.

Diameter is what effects presentation parameters most. After this, we can stat talking about other useful attributes.

World #1.- the world where what the manufacturer labels is what the manufacturer guarantees you it 's the absolute minimum breaking strength, ex, manufacturer labels the line 8 lbs test, well the manufacturer is telling you that if you purchase his product the absolute minimum breaking strength you 'll get from his line is 8 lbs test, in reality the line breaks above 8 lbs test.

World #2 .- the world where what the manufacturer labels is what it 's written on the label is the true breaking strength, the manufacturer labels his line for ex, at 8 lbs anf it 's going to break at 8 lbs or a little less.

I don 't compete nor are in search for an IGFA line class record so I prefer living in World #1, if you are after a line class record then you 'll have to live in World #2.

You can live in either of these two worlds, which one you choose it 's up entirely to you.

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linediameter.jpg

line ratings are usually for the minimum breaking strength. most non-IGFA labeled lines will actually break significantly higher. google around for some comparative tests.

yo-zuri hybrid is both thicker and thinner than other lines, depending on the test rating. in terms of handling and strength, i find yo-zuri hybrid very similar to trilene XT (even the ultra soft). according to http://www.sportfishingmag.com/techniques/tips/initial-dry-break-strength-53412.html 20# yo-zuri and XT both broke at 31.1 pounds (but XT is thicker here).

i've pretty much switched all my non-braid and non-fluorocarbon needs over to yo-zuri hybrid. good stuff.

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I know what the difference is between regular and ultrasoft, but I am still not clear when to use them.  Can someone clear that up?

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In clear water, original green Hybird is almost

invisible, especially in the smaller diameters.

In stained water, smoke or purple smoke is the

better choice.

Hybrid Ultra Soft is especially nice on spinning

tackle where "line management" can be an issue.

I prefer the green.

8-)

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Original Hybrid is less visible is clear water.

Otherwise, you will find Ultra Soft to be the better

choice for both spinning and baitcasting tackle.

8-)

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Is there any reason why you wouldn't use ultra soft on both spinning and baitcasting?

Fishing line can either vary, or people do certain things differently or SOMETHING.

In using 8lb yo-zuri Hybrid, on a SMALL spool spinning reel I had less manageability problems with the Y/Z than I did with even Trilene XL-considered a "spinning line"

So with that said I don't see any reason 'to' switch to ultrasoft.

I assume the Ultrasoft has more mono and less Flouro?

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I use ultrasoft on all of my reels, spinning and baitcasting. So far in the last 6 mos. I've been using yozuri, I have only encountered 1 problem, and that was, I believe I got either a real old spool, or a bad batch of line..as it had way more memory than the yozuri I've use to date. Until someone comes out with something better for my application, I'll stick to ultrasoft.. :)

Is there any reason why you wouldn't use ultra soft on both spinning and baitcasting?

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I've been using the regular hybrid in 10# on bait casters and absolutely love it!  I recently purchased a spool of 15# and it had horrible memory.  I switched to P-line CX in 15# and it was a lot better.  I was really disappointed.  Did I possibly get a bad batch or does the heavier weight hybrid tend to have a lot of memory?

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I've been using the regular hybrid in 10# on bait casters and absolutely love it! I recently purchased a spool of 15# and it had horrible memory. I switched to P-line CX in 15# and it was a lot better. I was really disappointed. Did I possibly get a bad batch or does the heavier weight hybrid tend to have a lot of memory?

You did not get a bad batch of line, copoly line does indeed have a lot of memory in the higher diameters, the catch is: you don 't need the higher diameters for regular conditions, why ? because both lines ( Hybrid and CXX ) have an incredibly high resistance and high breaking point well above of what is printed on the label.

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I've been using the regular hybrid in 10# on bait casters and absolutely love it! I recently purchased a spool of 15# and it had horrible memory. I switched to P-line CX in 15# and it was a lot better. I was really disappointed. Did I possibly get a bad batch or does the heavier weight hybrid tend to have a lot of memory?

Well, not for much longer. You are going to find our that CX and even CXX will have memory up the ying yang really soon, probably just as bad as what you have discovered with 15# yozuri. I use 12# yozuri on my curado and it's not that bad.

On the plus side, other than memory being ugly or unsightly, it does not affect performance.

:)

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Yeah, you guys are probably right. I put the P-line on and immediately fished it with no problems. The weather turned bad and I haven't been out since. I bet it looks like a phone cord now. I went with the 15 because it was going on a heavier rod that sees jigs, heavier t-rigs and the occasional c-rig. I don't really fish much heavy cover though. In fact I don't think I've ever even broken off the 10#. Maybe I should split the difference and go with 12, i'm sure it is plenty strong for my needs but will give me a little added peace of mind.

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Memory is a by-product of strength and abrasion resistance.

Trilene XL has very little memory, but is about as strong as spaghetti and has the abrasion resistance of sewing thread.

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I fished P-Line CXX for several years (4-5?) before

"discovering" Yo-Zuri. I really liked the P-Line,

but I like Hybrid and Hybrid Ultra Soft better.

8-)

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