after reading this thread, i almost feel as though ive been on the tread mill for 20 mins or so.

T,

If you think the cost of doing business outside of the US is simply about shipping costs, then you know nothing. Produce one iota of fact about the costs of Mexican made rods vs. Chinese made rods, and I'll listen, otherwise you are blowing steam.

Wow, did someone pee on your shoes this morning or what?  If you're looking for hard numbers then where are yours to support your opinion or are you blowing steam?   

My point was that you have to take more into consideration that just labor costs.  Not having to ship over the ocean lessens costs and transit time so inventory can be better manager because it can be brought to market more quickly.

You can get Freight Forwarders to blow you right now, at the height of the fuel prices, a container would run about 6000-8000, right now the cost of shipping per rod would be cents not dollars. (Why does the guy from NY have such an attitude?, such a stereotype).

T,

If you think the cost of doing business outside of the US is simply about shipping costs, then you know nothing. Produce one iota of fact about the costs of Mexican made rods vs. Chinese made rods, and I'll listen, otherwise you are blowing steam.

Wow, did someone pee on your shoes this morning or what? If you're looking for hard numbers then where are yours to support your opinion or are you blowing steam?

My point was that you have to take more into consideration that just labor costs. Not having to ship over the ocean lessens costs and transit time so inventory can be better manager because it can be brought to market more quickly.

That was my point as well.  There are logistical, political, marketing, and Lord knows what other costs associated in addition to whatever TTM processes are involved.  It sounded as though you were focused on shipping as the only difference.  My point is, St. Croix has had ads running in magazines promoting Mojo as Made in N. America.  To them, that is worth more than any pennies saved or lost on shipping.  BTW, I used to get shipments of frozen fish food that literally came on a slow boat from China.  Freight was never that much.  That was ten years ago, LOL.

(Why does the guy from NY have such an attitude?, such a stereotype).

From dealing with too many buttheads.

You guys need to take up a new hobby until the ice thaws.....

Ok, geography lesson time for those who still may be confused. NORTH America is a very large continent of which the United States (the good ol' USA) is a part of. There are 23 countries, plus a bunch of sovereign states and territories that comprise North America. So the phrase "Made in North America" is nothing more than a slick marketing term. It's not the same as "Made in the USA" You need to read between the lines. Not knocking St. Croix, just don't be fooled.

You guys need to take up a new hobby until the ice thaws.....

Ok, geography lesson time for those who still may be confused. NORTH America is a very large continent of which the United States (the good ol' USA) is a part of. There are 23 countries, plus a bunch of sovereign states and territories that comprise North America. So the phrase "Made in North America" is nothing more than a slick marketing term. It's not the same as "Made in the USA" You need to read between the lines. Not knocking St. Croix, just don't be fooled.

I'm pretty sure that isn't a point of contention in this thread.

You guys need to take up a new hobby until the ice thaws.....

Ok, geography lesson time for those who still may be confused. NORTH America is a very large continent of which the United States (the good ol' USA) is a part of. There are 23 countries, plus a bunch of sovereign states and territories that comprise North America. So the phrase "Made in North America" is nothing more than a slick marketing term. It's not the same as "Made in the USA" You need to read between the lines. Not knocking St. Croix, just don't be fooled.

I'm pretty that isn't a point of contention in this thread.

I'm sure you are pretty :-*

You guys need to take up a new hobby until the ice thaws.....

Ok, geography lesson time for those who still may be confused. NORTH America is a very large continent of which the United States (the good ol' USA) is a part of. There are 23 countries, plus a bunch of sovereign states and territories that comprise North America. So the phrase "Made in North America" is nothing more than a slick marketing term. It's not the same as "Made in the USA" You need to read between the lines. Not knocking St. Croix, just don't be fooled.

I'm pretty that isn't a point of contention in this thread.

I'm sure you are pretty :-*

#&$^! my gotdang keyboard be brokeded.

Wow!

To get back on track of this crazy hijacking... ;D

Here's a nice link to doing a split grip.

http://forums.basspro.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=024404

Yeah Dave D!!!!!

Just what I was looking for.

Thanks Dave! That was a good post. That is very close to how I did it. Except I didnt heat the glue. I also used a dremel tool. ....also, I didn't realize how easy posting rod pictures, turned into international business practices. LOL!

I prefer an elongated hour-glass shaped handle with a one inch long foregrip sanded to a slightly smaller  taper forward... but that's just the way I like my rods so I'm not sure why anyone else should care.

I prefer an elongated hour-glass shaped handle with a one inch long foregrip sanded to a slightly smaller taper forward... but that's just the way I like my rods so I'm not sure why anyone else should care.

My fishing partner does that also. They are very comfortable that way. This was my first go at it. I am sure that I will "hone" my craft in time. I did mine a certain way because I wanted the heel of my hand to rest directly on the blank. When I hold the rod, I "hold the reel". Very little of my hand actally touches the handle. the trigger of the rod, goes in between my pinkie and ring finger. But the main thing is, before anybody does this to their rod, visualize how you hold it, and what would be comfortable. Because personal preference is everything.

can this be done with foam grips? i want to try it on a cheap rod before i just go full ahead on an expensive rod lol

thanks

LJ

Silver Bullet, It might. I have never tried it. the problem with foam is, I don't know if you can "shape" the foam once it is all said and done. I dunno if it "tears" and have rough edges, or sands smooth. I guess I will have to try one.

those look great what kind of paint did you use

Silver Bullet, It might. I have never tried it. the problem with foam is, I don't know if you can "shape" the foam once it is all said and done. I dunno if it "tears" and have rough edges, or sands smooth. I guess I will have to try one.

well i set out and tried it on my current baitcaster rod, just a berkely el cheapo. it actually came out better than i thought and only took me about 20 minutes all said and done. the pic below with the cork grip is my buddy's that he did today in about the same amount of time.

and i gotta post up the megaforce haha

those look great what kind of paint did you use

I uses gloss krylon. You know, If I had to do it over again, I would have used a light colored primer first. Up close, I ca see thin spots in the paint, also, i dunno how durable the coat will be over time. But, like I said, it was my first try. Trial and error over time will help a man develop a good system.

Silver Bullet, It might. I have never tried it. the problem with foam is, I don't know if you can "shape" the foam once it is all said and done. I dunno if it "tears" and have rough edges, or sands smooth. I guess I will have to try one.

well i set out and tried it on my current baitcaster rod, just a berkely el cheapo. it actually came out better than i thought and only took me about 20 minutes all said and done. the pic below with the cork grip is my buddy's that he did today in about the same amount of time.

and i gotta post up the megaforce haha

Man, your foam grip one looks great. Looks like it shaped nicely.good Job!

Silver Bullet, It might. I have never tried it. the problem with foam is, I don't know if you can "shape" the foam once it is all said and done. I dunno if it "tears" and have rough edges, or sands smooth. I guess I will have to try one.

well i set out and tried it on my current baitcaster rod, just a berkely el cheapo. it actually came out better than i thought and only took me about 20 minutes all said and done. the pic below with the cork grip is my buddy's that he did today in about the same amount of time.

and i gotta post up the megaforce haha

Man, your foam grip one looks great. Looks like it shaped nicely.good Job!

thanks! i appreciate the confidence boost! haha. i coulda got it a little better but i dont really care, it looks fine and serves its purpose