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Abu Garcias Vendetta rated better than Shimanos Cumulus!!!!

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At least that is what tackletour.com said. the Vendetta scored a 8.33 while the Cumulus scored an 8.00.

Of course its only .33, and the main reason is because it got a much higher score for costing so much less.

At the same time the vendetta score only half a point below the Cumulus in performance and application.

I'm not saying that the vendetta would win in a head to head test. But when you consider that you can buy about four vendettas for one  Cumulus. It makes it even more amazing that the vendetta can even compete.

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At least that is what tackletour.com said. the Vendetta scored a 8.33 while the Cumulus scored an 8.00.

Of course its only .33, and the main reason is because it got a much higher score for costing so much less.

At the same time the vendetta score only half a point below the Cumulus in performance and application.

I'm not saying that the vendetta would win in a head to head test. But when you consider that you can buy about four vendettas for one Cumulus. It makes it even more amazing that the vendetta can even compete.

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UPS dropped off my fifth Vendetta, the heavy flippin stick earlier in the day.  The Vendettas are great rods but they are no Cumuli?

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I just purchased two vendetta rods, one for small swimbaits and a MH spinning rod for my Stradic CI4

Anyone have any experience with there Spinning Rods?

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I just purchased two vendetta rods, one for small swimbaits and a MH spinning rod for my Stradic CI4

Anyone have any experience with there Spinning Rods?

I have the 6'9" ML.  I like it for Flick Shakin and other finesse duties.  Sensitive and power but a tiny bit tip heavy.

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I have 2 Vendettas and while they are a great value for the price they feel like bass rods from the 1970's in terms of weight.

Just the decals weigh like 4 ounces.

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I own the 7' m spinning rod and I think it is ok. my complaint is it is very tip heavy. I guess for a rod at that price I shouldn't complain.

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I have 2 Vendettas and while they are a great value for the price they feel like bass rods from the 1970's in terms of weight.

Just the decals weigh like 4 ounces.

The 6'9" casting model is 5.1 oz, the MBR783C GLX2000 weighs in at 4.8 oz.  I would hardly consider that a great difference in weights.

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yah vendettas are awsome ive got the 7.3 mh its an awsome toad, paddle tail rod ... and i got the 7.6 hard on the way .... wooo

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Tackletour shmackletour.  Cal doesnt know what he's talking about.  ;D

Those two rods do not compete in the same market class.  The guy looking at the Vendetta more than likely is not considering the Cumulus, or vice versa. 

I'm not knocking the Vendetta.  Hell I honestly don't like either of those two rods.  However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

It's just like shopping for cars guys.  The same guy looking at a Subaru WRX is not looking at a Murcielago, or vice versa...

And for those of you wondering, Cal is a good friend of mine, so I can bust his chops from time to time.  ;)

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funny you say that ... not a wrx but pretty much the same thing ... i haven't handled a cumulus but i have a cumara and a vendetta and i seem to be grabbing the vendetta more ... but i will give it to you its more refined..ie lambo... but is the performance really that different. But your right if i had the budget .. id be all cumulus .... ... or maby a custom super awsome horny toad rod....  ;D ;D ;D.... 

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Yep, and I rate the Wright & McGill Tessera rods as slightly better than the Loomis GLX.

Equipment reviews...what a racket.

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In regards to the Abu spinning rods, I had a 7'MH and they feel slapped together, almost like they spent alot of time on the casting rods and realized they needed a spinning rod last minute.  They are heavy, unbalanced, clumsy, and the threading on the real seat is about an inche to long.

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In regards to the Abu spinning rods, I had a 7'MH and they feel slapped together, almost like they spent alot of time on the casting rods and realized they needed a spinning rod last minute. They are heavy, unbalanced, clumsy, and the threading on the real seat is about an inche to long.

I agree, maybe I need to pick up one of the casting rods since everyone raves over them. For the spinning rod I would spend a little more and get a bucoo

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However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

I agree but is it $300 better? Seriously if I'm spending that much on a rod I'd expect it to beat a rod like the Vendetta no matter who's doing the review. I mean they shouldn't even be in the same ball park.

Not saying that those guys at Tackle Tour have the finale word on it but they do test a lot of tackle and they seem to have very high standards consider that they compare most rods to G.Loomis GLX

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d**n, I bought a spinning rod thinking it would be decent. Well hopefully it will suit my needs. Mainl dropshot and light lures.

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However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

I agree but is it $300 better? Seriously if I'm spending that much on a rod I'd expect it to beat a rod like the Vendetta no matter who's doing the review. I mean they shouldn't even be in the same ball park.

Not saying that those guys at Tackle Tour have the finale word on it but they do test a lot of tackle and they seem to have very high standards consider that they compare most rods to G.Loomis GLX

That's just it.  It doesnt have to be $300 better.  The Cumulus rod is Shimano's flagship.   It has to be priced accordingly.  Im sure youre getting a great stick for the money.  Heck, look at the new Megabass Arms rods.  They go for a cool grand!  Is that rod 3x better than the Cumulus? 

Like I said earlier, I personally, dont like either rod.  The Cumulus is too minimal for my tastes.  I'm also not a fan of Garcia products.  But that's just me.

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However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

I agree but is it $300 better? Seriously if I'm spending that much on a rod I'd expect it to beat a rod like the Vendetta no matter who's doing the review. I mean they shouldn't even be in the same ball park.

Not saying that those guys at Tackle Tour have the finale word on it but they do test a lot of tackle and they seem to have very high standards consider that they compare most rods to G.Loomis GLX

Tell ya what, I haven't fished the Cumulus but I have fished the Steez, 6'3" casting and 7'1" casting and the Vendetta 6'3" casting and 6'9" casting.  Component and finish wise, it's the Steez all day long.  Performance wise, the Vendetta takes it far and away.

Just wait until the Veritas hits the scene, cause then the game is really on!

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Jokes on us all. They probably come from the same factory in china and just exit out of different shipping docks.  What anybody likes or prefers in a rod is too subjective.  Ive learned to hate everything about my cumara rods with just a little use. I fell in love with the only vendetta I have a 6'3".

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However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

I agree but is it $300 better? Seriously if I'm spending that much on a rod I'd expect it to beat a rod like the Vendetta no matter who's doing the review. I mean they shouldn't even be in the same ball park.

Not saying that those guys at Tackle Tour have the finale word on it but they do test a lot of tackle and they seem to have very high standards consider that they compare most rods to G.Loomis GLX

Tell ya what, I haven't fished the Cumulus but I have fished the Steez, 6'3" casting and 7'1" casting and the Vendetta 6'3" casting and 6'9" casting. Component and finish wise, it's the Steez all day long. Performance wise, the Vendetta takes it far and away.

Just wait until the Veritas hits the scene, cause then the game is really on!

Vendetta 6'9" vs Steez 7' ?

I've fished both rods and there no question, the Steez not only is better looking with better components, it completely out performs the Vendetta by a mile.

The $90 (5.1 oz) rod is totally blown away by the $450 (3.8 oz) rod.

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However I will tell you that if you were to hold both rods, there is no question that the Cumulus is the more refined stick.

I agree but is it $300 better? Seriously if I'm spending that much on a rod I'd expect it to beat a rod like the Vendetta no matter who's doing the review. I mean they shouldn't even be in the same ball park.

Not saying that those guys at Tackle Tour have the finale word on it but they do test a lot of tackle and they seem to have very high standards consider that they compare most rods to G.Loomis GLX

Tell ya what, I haven't fished the Cumulus but I have fished the Steez, 6'3" casting and 7'1" casting and the Vendetta 6'3" casting and 6'9" casting. Component and finish wise, it's the Steez all day long. Performance wise, the Vendetta takes it far and away.

Just wait until the Veritas hits the scene, cause then the game is really on!

Vendetta 6'9" vs Steez 7' ?

I've fished both rods and there no question, the Steez not only is better looking with better components, it completely out performs the Vendetta by a mile.

The $90 (5.1 oz) rod is totally blown away by the $450 (3.8 oz) rod.

The Daiwa Steez 7'1" Compile X rod, not the 7' Steez rod. Not just blown away by the Vendetta but total epic failure. And just for the record, if you're down to a 1.3 oz difference between rods, you may want to re-examine your choice of sports. Tiddlywinks comes to mind.

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You guys must be smoking crack if u think the Vendetta is a better rod than the Cumulus rod! I have both, I have the 6'5 model and and the 6'9 Vendetta the Vendetta isn't in the same class as the Cumulus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This has passed from the slightly amusing to the hysterically funny.  ;D

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The Vendetta looks a lot like my Falcon Cara T7 Split grip rod.  So after reading this yesterday I went up to BPS and took my Revo Premier.  I put the reel on the Vendetta rod and it felt pretty good.  So I brought one home and am heading out to compare it to my Falcon today.  Updates coming later today...

Later, ;)

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Per the review:  "average sensitivity"

"The VTC69-6 is a fine product that promises to redefine the value rod market."

And people are comparing it to a Steez or a GLX or a Cumulus?

These reviews are done with price in mind.  The vendetta may be an 8.33 for an $80 rod but if it cost $150 it would be much lower.  If it cost $300 it likely would be rated as poor.

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