THANK GOD! i thought i was crazy. i lost 4 fish the other day at a pond and almost all were on the hookset. i was using power pro 50# with palomar knot. i thought i was tying the knot wrong but on the last fish i lost i could see the knot still tied but no hook!

We are paying for high end products and recieving junk.

All the solutions are enabling hook companys to not invest in there proccess.

Notice over and over Gammi's and Owners with gap problems take a look at your hooks the ones that are a problem send them to the company and demand good products.

Garnet

A real easy solution is to use a Durlock snap.  The snap will not pull though the gap of the eye..

We are paying for high end products and recieving junk. All the solutions are enabling hook companys to not invest in there proccess.

Garnet

That reminds me of the jig-makers who are too cheap to bust the paint out of the eyelet.

They just dip the jigs in paint, then package them after they're dry.

They actually benefit from this shoddy practice by selling us "Eye Poppers" to finish THEIR job

Roger

Notice over and over Gammi's and Owners with gap problems...

I know what you mean but, I guess it's a matter of perspective.  I've been using those same "problem" Owner hooks since the early 80's... with no problems.  They were designed before today's superlines were out and popular.  I still use mono and Owner is still my hook of choice.  

I do see your point with gammy, they advertise "superline" hooks so they ought to be made for it.

THANK GOD! i thought i was crazy. i lost 4 fish the other day at a pond and almost all were on the hookset. i was using power pro 50# with palomar knot. i thought i was tying the knot wrong but on the last fish i lost i could see the knot still tied but no hook!

I used power pro 50 as well and had the problem, not the lines fault. so I changed to a larger dia to avoid it. Didn't help that much. Snelling the hook seems to be the best answer.

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That reminds me of the jig-makers who are too cheap to bust the paint out of the eyelet.

They just dip the jigs in paint, then package them after they're dry.

They actually benefit from this shoddy practice by selling us "Eye Poppers" to finish THEIR job

Roger

I know a certain bait maker that takes the time to clean out every jig eye that   I  they make.......no jig buster needed here

Harshman

That's another pet peeve, after chipping the paint in the eye of the jig, it leaves small sharp paint edges that are instant stress points for your line. I remove all of the paint from the eye area to avoid this type of problem as well. Are we being too picky?

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the knot slipping through the opening in the hook eye has been a real pain at times, especially when I'm using 10 lb Power Pro.  What I've done is just take a needle nose pliers and is squeeze the eye closed. Seems to work on the lighter hooks just fine. Never really had that problem with 30 and up lb test Braid. Although, I've worried about it from time to time.

Yeah Joel, and the bigger the hook it seems the bigger the gap. but I've found that on these larger hooks, so much pressure is required to crimp with pliers that it will often leave a sharp abrasion on the hook, so I try to avoid that as well. Thanks just the same

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never had the problem

x2

lol funny you mention the "superline" design hooks because that was just what i was using only i was using mustad. the package had the "made for superline" garb on it. im a huge owner fan myself but found these "superline ewg" hooks on clearance at wally world for $1 a pack. they were hard to pass up!

Notice over and over Gammi's and Owners with gap problems...

I know what you mean but, I guess it's a matter of perspective. I've been using those same "problem" Owner hooks since the early 80's... with no problems. They were designed before today's superlines were out and popular. I still use mono and Owner is still my hook of choice.

I do see your point with gammy, they advertise "superline" hooks so they ought to be made for it.

I have been fishing a lot of years. I use Eagle Claw hooks most of the time. Have not had that problem with these hooks. In fact have never had a problem with Eagle Claw hooks at all.

The best part is they are made in America

Forgot to mention I use mono, FC but mostly Power Pro. From UL to heavy Surf.