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As the weather warms up, an the ice melts I was wondering if someone could help me out.

I was wondering what is the best an most used method of Pitching/flipping with Bait-casters. What do you do to the breaks an tension knob.

Also what does it mean when you slow roll a spinner bait.

Thanks in advance.

memo

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im not sure what the preferred method is, but when im pitching i like the tension loose and the brakes tight. flipping shouldnt matter as youre not opening the reel.

i believe slow rolling a spinner bait is reeling it slow so it bumps or drags on the bottom. i think of slow rolling as when im fishing a heavy spinnerbait down a ledge and making frequent contact with the bottom. i might be wrong if this is called slow rolling or not...

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When I slow roll a spinnerbait I don't want it to touch the bottom so I use one with #5 and #7 blades, usually Colorado Copper.

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Thanks  bigfruits, Jig Man for the tips,

come on guys keep the tips rolling, This is what makes this Site GREAT.

memo

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I was actually gonna ask this too ive been pitching for about a year but i still feel like im missing something maybe i just have to loosen the tension more anyways bump for ya !

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For flipping, brakes and spool tension don't matter.  For pitching, the spool doesn't generally move fast enough for the brakes to matter, but the spool tension should be loose.  Slow rolling a spinner bait is retrieving so the bait remains very close to bottom, or makes contact.

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When I slow role a spinner bait I want to feel that big blade just turning enough to keep it off the bottom. The next thing I look for is no feel and I set the HOOK

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For flipping, brakes and spool tension don't matter. For pitching, the spool doesn't generally move fast enough for the brakes to matter, but the spool tension should be loose.

i like the brakes tight for a pitch type cast (underhand loop?). for pitching with the bait in your hand doing a pendulum motion, i dont think the brakes matter as much...

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I think your talking about what I'd call a roll cast.  I like quite a bit of brake and lots of thumb for that too.

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Turn your tension completely off and learn to use your thumb. It takes alot of practice but once you learn to finesse your thumb on the spool gain accuracy and softer pitches.

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roll cast. thats it!

from another thread:

Then leave about 2 feet of line from your bait to the rodtip. You want to roll cast the baits.  Make a "o" with your rod tip and let er fly about 6 inches off the water's surface.

not sure if its considered "pitching" but it gets the bait in the water quietly and accurately from a short to medium distance. definitely a great cast to learn.

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I think the two hardest techniques to get down are skipping and walking the dog.

Anyone got any detailed tips on those two techniques?

I would loooooooooove to have some help with these two.

They are currently the two I have the most trouble with.

Coming in a close third is just knowing some different techniques for a jerkbait, suspending and floating.

Cyas,

D

oh yea, sorry if I hijacked your thread a bit memo, just thought it would be dumb to make a second thread about what is generally the same subject.

And also, thanks for your service brother.

:)

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roll cast. thats it!

from another thread:

Then leave about 2 feet of line from your bait to the rodtip. You want to roll cast the baits. Make a "o" with your rod tip and let er fly about 6 inches off the water's surface.

not sure if its considered "pitching" but it gets the bait in the water quietly and accurately from a short to medium distance. definitely a great cast to learn.

You got it, roll cast.  Great for spinnerbaits around overhangs.  A pitch is more the pendulum style cast, where you use the rod tip as a fulcrum.  The flip is where you have a measured amount of line out, and simply strip line from between the reel and the first guide to quickly lift the bait from the water and move to the next pocket.

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just thought it would be dumb to make a second thread about what is generally the same subject.

Go ahead and make new threads. Those are good topics by themselves. Name it say, "Walking the Dog", then others using the search feature can find it. You can also try the search, there might be previous threads. If not, add one!

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To a fly fishermen a roll cast is a roll cast. Bass fishermen have different names depending on the region your from.

The underhand loop cast is exactly what some bass people call a roll cast; the lure is whipped by the rod tip in a circle, then cast to a target in the flat trajectory. Pitching is very similar to flipping, except as you swing (pendilium) the lure forward with the rod, the reel lets more line out. Most pitchers use their thumb to control the cast. Loop casting requires practice, like any other bait casting skill.

To slow roll a spinnerbait means to slowly retrieve the lure, just fast enough the keep the blade or blades turning and lure off the bottom.

WRB

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I think the two hardest techniques to get down are skipping and walking the dog.

Anyone got any detailed tips on those two techniques?

I would loooooooooove to have some help with these two.

They are currently the two I have the most trouble with.

Coming in a close third is just knowing some different techniques for a jerkbait, suspending and floating.

Cyas,

D

oh yea, sorry if I hijacked your thread a bit memo, just thought it would be dumb to make a second thread about what is generally the same subject.

And also, thanks for your service brother.

:)

since I consider myself an excellent dog walker, I'll chime in. I throw spooks on a 6'2" MH/F shimano convergance...its a cheap rod, but works  WONDERFULLY. though this rod has a quite stout tip, I feel like it walks easier, as less of my twitch is absorbed in the tip.

with a slight bit of slack to the line, I start slowly twitching, between each twitch I bring a 1/4- 1/2 turnof line, keeping the slack in the line.

it's the quick snap of the limp line that jerks the bait back and forth, so remembering the slack is important. once you have the basic twitching down, you can increase, or decrease the amount of twitch you apply and amount of line you take in to get it to walk different strides.

contrary to what I've heard, I believe bass prefer a steady, constant walk.(Snook, Redfish and other saltwater species are a different story) I don't vary my retrieve between speeds in the middle of the same cast, but instead walk each cast at different speeds till I get a hit. then I try to keep that pace, every great once in a while I'll give it a pause, and definitely if I get a bust that doesn't hook up. Good luck, hope that helps

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Major Thanks to Millerman for the simple explanation of the roll cast.  I am 65 years old, and this is a big plus for me.  I now use this cast often.  I fish and flip boat houses often; so, this is another positive factor in putting the lure where I want it.

Dr T

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slow roll spinnerbait. Cast it let it drop to desired depth. Start reeling just barely to get the blades moving thump thump thump bumping bottom structure and tipping grass.

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Thanks bigfruits, Jig Man for the tips,

come on guys keep the tips rolling, This is what makes this Site GREAT.

memo

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