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Last night, I broke a rod trying to swing a fish into the boat. She wasn't even that dang big, right at 4 pounds, but the rod just snapped smooth in half. This was a mid level rod that I really loved-KVD signature series worm rod, about 80 bucks. I've got a couple of theories...

1. I need to buy better rods?

2. I don't need to flip fish that size into the boat, just net em.

Anyone else had this problem? What would you suggest?

  • Super User

Learn how to land the fish by lipping it, or get a net.

"Better" rods will be more brittle and more thin and therefore will be MORE likely to break in this manner.  If you want to keep swinging them then you should get an Ugly stick or something.   :)

Do #2.

Like said, you shouldn't just be yanking the fish out of the water.  If the fish is coming out of the water, use your hands, or if you can't reach a net.

  • Super User

When you flip a fish of any size into the boat, you normally end up with all the weight on a rod that's nearly vertical.  No rod's upper section (no bass rod anyway) is designed to take 4 pounds of pressure from a steep angle.

Would you take a 4 pound weight and tie it to a short line and swing it around up high with your prized rod?  I'm betting not.  It's the same thing.  

swinging a 4lb-er!?  I wont swing anything that appears to be  16" or more

  • Super User

Swinging a bass into the boat is an art that many anglers never master ;)

Just a random thought here but when you swung the bass on aboard you stopped once the bass cleared the gunnels leaving the rod to support the full weight of the bass?

When swinging a bass on board I catch it with my hand while still in the air, Catch the line with my hand while still in the air or gently lower it onto the deck.

All done with one smooth motion ;)

I agree with all the other anglers here.  Don't need better rods, you need to learn to lip them or net them.  That is a big fish to flip.

  • Super User

Bouncing bass is a newer concept in bass fishing created by B.A.S.S. when they eliminated nets. Swinging a 2 lbs bass is easy with most med/hvy, fast action bass rods, IF you use the fishes forward momentum to get it airborne. The rod may break under 2 lbs of dead weight. Trying to swing a 4 lb bass requires the bass to nearly jump into the boat with the rod assisting the forward motion.

Do you have any idea what a boat carpet does to the basses slime coat? If removes a major amount of slime and the bass is subject to all kinds of bacterial diseases as a result.

If you swing and catch it, without hooking yourself, that works. Why not use a good quality net on bigger bass, less damage to the bass and you don't loose the bass, hook yourself or break your rod. Don't believe you are fishing a B.A.S.S. tournament, take an extra few seconds to land the and handle the bass with care.

WRB

  • Author

I can absolutely chalk it up to being lazy I guess. Half the time I lip em, half the time I swing em and catch the line as Catt said. But also, 99% of the time, they're 12 inchers. Good common sense was absent at that juncture and the results are a headache and a 65 mile trip to BPS to hope they exchange my 3 month old broken rod.

Thanks guys.

  • Super User

We live and learn, right? ;) I always lip my fish but where I live a seven or eight pound fish is huge. I do carry a net on the slim chance that I nail something much larger.  Even then I may still lip it.  

As the others have stated its not the rods fault. It is the angle at which the rod is at,as the weight of the fish is coming down. What you did is called "Highsticking". On the ocean charter boats "bouncing" a fish is common practice as the fish are kept. You learn how to do it without it breaking your rod. If you do it to the side and lower your rod tip as the fish is coming down, your rod will be fine. I do not recomend this for fish that will be released but it is very effective

Swinging a bass into the boat is an art that many anglers never master ;)

Just a random thought here but when you swung the bass on aboard you stopped once the bass cleared the gunnels leaving the rod to support the full weight of the bass?

When swinging a bass on board I catch it with my hand while still in the air, Catch the line with my hand while still in the air or gently lower it onto the deck.

All done with one smooth motion ;)

Although it is not a good idea, this is true! I have successfully swung 5lbers into the boat with there own momentum alone!

  • Super User

1. I need to buy better rods?

2. I don't need to flip fish that size into the boat, just net em.

I don't believe that either theory is the culprit.

I believe that your blank was previously ruptured, and that it took that stressor to indicate the flaw.

If you said that your rod broke right behind the tiptop guide, I would've answered differently

Roger

    Do #2

  • Super User

Nothing over 14-15" for me. Anything else gets lipped.

UNLESS it's got a face full of trebles due to being caught on something like a Rogue. Then I'll try and grab the lure, flip it into the boat and on the floor or belly ****** the fish. I had an incident with a rogue hooked fish and I was thankful I had a partner that day to unhook me from the situation I was in.

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