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[slonezp]

Got this from another forum so I don't know the validity. Anyway this thing is a BEAST!

Rich Clarke from Sign man Charters guided a first time Muskie fisherman to this 60"x29.5" brute on the St. Lawrence yesterday. The fish was released unweighted but the consensus on Muskie First is that it is the biggest legitimate Muskie ever caught. Estimated weight is 60#-65#

[J Francho]

The fish was released unweighted but the consensus on Muskie First is that it is the biggest legitimate Muskie ever caught.

Does that make the current NY record of 69-15 illegitimate?

[tomustang]

How come the charter didn't have a scale?

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

Does that make the current NY record of 69-15 illegitimate?

Acording to the IGFA, and the National Fresh Water Fishing Hall Of Fame, it already is illegitimate.

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

How come the charter didn't have a scale?

if a release is planned, there is no good way to scale a musky that size.

[J Francho]

Acording to the IGFA, and the National Fresh Water Fishing Hall Of Fame, it already is illegitimate.

All because Dettloff is a blow hard with ulterior motives. Thankfully, New York State recognizes the record.

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

All because Dettloff is a blow hard with ulterior motives. Thankfully, New York State recognizes the record.

I can't disagree with you there.....But, some of his evidence seemed convincing. Problem is some of the fish from WI, seem to have at least as much evidence to suggest their size was over stated too.

[J Francho]

So why doesn't Detloff use the same criteria to discount Louie Spray's catches (oh, bye the way caught just yards from Detloff's resort) as he did to discredit the Lawton fish? Yeah. To me, you have to catch a 70 lb. musky for it to be a "record breaker." Then I'll shut up, LOL.

And that fish above is one fantastic catch! Lucky guy!

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

So why doesn't Detloff use the same criteria to discount Louie Spray's catches (oh, bye the way caught just yards from Detloff's resort) as he did to discredit the Lawton fish? Yeah. To me, you have to catch a 70 lb. musky for it to be a "record breaker." Then I'll shut up, LOL.

And that fish above is one fantastic catch! Lucky guy!

That's the problem. If the 69'15 is overturned spray's fish, and johnson's fish need to be as well.


I've got the old Musky Hunter Magazines from the 90's when he ran all the witch hunt, and in defense of spray articles....They (MHM) seem to have taken a MUCH more neutral position on the subject these days.

[J Francho]

Anyone interested in the soap opera can start here.

Time erases all trust. All records could be overturned, just let all the witnesses die, and lose the documentation. Look at the largemouth record. Or the smallmouth record that was entered, retracted, and reentered to the books.

[Red Earth]

wow, id love to catch a muskie like that. the only muskie i ever caught was a fingerling in smith mountain lake some years ago

[tomustang]

if a release is planned, there is no good way to scale a musky that size.

By boca grip.


It's not hard to have a human floor scale on a charter boat, all that needs to be done is tare the person out holding an esox

[JIGFISHERMAN.]

By boca grip.


It's not hard to have a human floor scale on a charter boat, all that needs to be done is tare the person out holding an esox

The human weight scaled out would work, but would still be considered woefully unreliable.

If you want to release a musky that big it shouldn't be held vertical, so the boca grip isn't needed.

[J Francho]

A bathroom scale on rocking boat. .. Just more ammo for the doubters. When people figure out how to hold and weigh big fish in water, you'll see some legit weights. For now, L x G formulas will have to suffice. I respect the guys that release them a lot. Gotta be tough to let a record go.

[roadwarrior]

I'm keeping the next 12-1 smallmouth I catch!