dodgeguy

flw.espn ruined bass.

totally agree.chris i also agree on the supreme xt which has the carbon drag.

get fireline braid and do it right the first time.

i haven't actually kept track of it i'm going by instinct.i would be willing to say if you did keep track of it you might find i was right.

i use a full spool of braid.i tie to the spool and start taping over the line as it spools on.a couple of wraps of black electrical tape and i'm done.

start keeping track of it.

the fact is when you read enough over the internet fishing forums you come to see way more threads on broken loomis rods then any other.if you don't believe me start keeping track of it.i hardly ever hear about st. croix rods breaking or poor quality of finish on them.

i would not try learning with flouro.

they screwed up the johnny morris rods.i don't mind the lack of a foregrip but i need a solid handle.they also went with cheaper guides.they had titanium fuji sic.

i use them with everything.

guess we gotta disagree on this one.

we don't bash powerpro.i used to use it all the time.fact is it's outdated.it's noisey.it digs.it windknots.fact is there are other lines out there that are better.

when worming in weeds and rocks the worm tends to get caught by the tail then your line stretchs as you pull on it.this makes it even less sensitive.like i said the properties that make it stretchy also deaden feel.flouro is denser and transmits feel better than mono.i fish cranks on braid.i can feel when the fish opens it's mouth behind the bait.it creates a vacuum which changes the pulse of the bait.you wil never feel that on stretched out rubberband mono.sometime with cranks on mono you don't even know it's a fish until it runs the other way.i don't think you'd even feel it on flouro.

the property that gives line stretch deadens the feel even if the line isn't stretched. mono lines generally have approx 20% stretch.that means at 35 feet your line will stretch 7 feet.in weeds the problem becomes even greater as the mono grabs the weeds and stretchs like a rubber band . like i said you cannot logically argue this point. Are you saying that if we put out 35 feet of mono, and pull it tight and keep pulling, it will stretch to 42 feet?? (Assuming it doesn't reach its breaking point first.) yes

In my case, you're absolutely correct! I do have some Fireline braid (bought on your recommendation - you finally got me with the famous photo ;D) ready for when the PP finally wears out... trash it now.

the property that gives line stretch deadens the feel even if the line isn't stretched. mono lines generally have approx 20% stretch.that means at 35 feet your line will stretch 7 feet.in weeds the problem becomes even greater as the mono grabs the weeds and stretchs like a rubber band . like i said you cannot logically argue this point.

maybe your bearings are shot.

spb is 6 strand not 8.sufix 832 is 8 strand.

i use recoils with fireline braid and it makes almost no noise.cheap braid makes noise because it has a rough finish.i guarantee most of you noisey guys use powerpro.

stretch absorbs feel.it's that simple.

the newer braids such as fireline braid are much more abrasion resistant than older style braids.i fish cranks on rocks all day with fireline braid with no retie. braid backlashes are far easier to get out than mono or flouro.i don't dig them out i use the thumb trick. braid is far more sensitive.this point can't even be argued logically.

1 inch thick 8 inch dowel to wrap braid around and pull.you will lose far less lures with braid.get rid of the powerpro.it's outdated.i like fireline braid (not regular fireline) because it is round and smooth and does not dig.you could try diawa or sufix 832 also.