bulldog1935

Talk of big heavy Zebcos and snoopy/tigger combos is misleading our OP. His question is about fishing with kids. I mentioned Zebco 33 Micro - this means something.

https://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa.html @txchaser - send your question to Jun Sonada - he has great English and will have a solution for you. While I'm here, the caveat for anyone who followed this and wants to swap spools in Daiwa. Spindle widths are never exact. Before you open palm plate latch, always open Zero Adjust knob (CCW). After swapping spools, the last thing after latching the palm plate is re-set Zero (CW) to incipient side-play. This prevents damaging the palm plate latch, buckling the spindle, etc.

@txchaser Actually, if you had left the context in my post, the answer was there - it was in the brake inductors and spool capacities. If you want Zillion to cast a normal range of lures from 1/8 to 1 oz on 12-16-lb mono, it's really quite versatile with stock 1016SV spool. If you want to cast over an ounce, e.g. big swimbaits, and still overlap down to 1/4 oz, maybe use bigger mono, you don't want SV, but a (deeper) MagZ spool, instead. If you want to cast 1/8 oz and still up to a full ounce to max distance, threadline braid on BFS-SV spool turns it into a pocket rocket. If you want to cast 1/16 to 3/8 oz on threadline braid, the lightest fixed-inductor BFS spools will throw the light range farther than you need to fish. Spools go on sale when they're closing out. I bought MagZ 1012 for PE#2 to match on my CV-Z for 1/3-off. Same spool will swap into my other 34-mm Daiwas - Steez, Zillion(s), Ryoga.

@F14A-B Here's Isuzu link for the new reel. The giveaway for the matching TryAngle BFS spool is the drag gear for the feed clicker. Not something you see on too many reels these days

(this is Headhunters Target, L/E of Isuzu DD310SSS) @WRB-2.0 full ball-bearing Marhoff on steroids

What's really easy is leading girls to fly fish - girls treat it like music instead of aggression. Never snag, never knot, never fall in, never complain.

@Eric 26 - after researching, finding '11 model Omega Pro discounted 50% on Amazon was enough for me to buy two. These were for my dad (95), who can't cast a baitcaster any more. Beginning with Delta, Zebco spools oscillate to improve line handling and cast distance. Bullet is high-speed pick-up, but Omega Pro is 3 oz lighter weight. Both my daughters began fishing Zebco UL-1, current equivalent is Zebco 33 Micro.

I always have a reel on my bench - most often, I'm making shallow-spool mods for BFS braid (PE#1 to PE#2 - 20- to 40-lb X-braid). When I'm initially setting mag brakes on these spools, I always use the same charge of 5-lb Maxima Ultragreen mono. I spool it back onto a source spool, and re-use it next time. On ebay, search spool and reel model. You'll find a wide range of aftermarket options, from shallow braid spools to deep long-cast spools. Also, some reliable vendors both offshore and onshore.

My best 4500C bench result will cast 3 g past 150' - on a 6'6" rod yet. A BFS-raced Steez won't quite keep up with it. My next project is a 5000D, it will get the same treatment on the LW, and a set of Japanese improved spool bushings. Though I'm not shooting for the performance above, it will be a on a medium crank rod - will be 1/8 oz capable, and I'll be fishing more weight on it.

@Eric 26 may have a lead for this...

My 2016 Steez, 2018 Ryoga, and my 2023 SLPW Zillion all have metal clutch thumb bars. Back to the Bullwinkle Show.

@newapti5 - if you follow that link up, you will notice the OOS Kahen and Neo spools were always sold at realistic prices - less than $120. Certainly my favorite spool, Ray's Studio SV, is a direct copy of KTF Kahen. SV brake was invented by KTF, and shared with Daiwa. Following ebay scalpers is no indication of reality, and might drift your mind into hype. If you want to find one, shop on Yahoo. And KTF spool kicks butt.

I'm afraid if they follow past model introduction trends, it will be a down-graded Steez, which means 32-mm spool, plastic clutch thumb bar, and replace one worm-shaft ball bearing with a bushing. It will also cost more than current Zillion.

@WRB-2.0 Yeah, that's unfortunate. FishingShop.kiwi is usually spot-on about availability - they don't keep stock, but order from the distributors, pack and ship.

For anyone with a '14 Chronarch, KTF has a $45 sale price on their BFS spool in gold - http://www.karil.co.jp/online_shop/sys/catalogue.cgi?me=detail&ma=&mp=SALE-KTF-FS-14CHRON-SG and blue - http://www.karil.co.jp/online_shop/sys/catalogue.cgi?me=detail&ma=&mp=SALE-KTF-FS-14CHRON-LB Though buying requires using a Japan broker, such as Noppin or ZenMarket. while you're there, buy their IXA spool bearings...

mine seem to breed - there's another

If you notice, I'm wading on a natural island shelf with turtle grass. There's a cut channel for a boat pass through the island - we're fishing across the pass - fishing both channel slopes doubles your fish chances. Dredging the channel makes wonderful hard-pack that we call shellcrete. Big Cut is the current boat channel - Little Cut was last dredged 60 years ago, and it makes great fishing structure. Trout Bayou Cut was the boat channel last dredged 100 years ago - it makes great fishing structure on NNE wind and high MWL (fall tides). We hit a good September tide fall a few years ago and found stacked snook at the outside of Little Cut. (my buddies across the pass)

@WRB-2.0 North One Tackle has the only stock I can google up - fishingshop.kiwi and Asian Portal show no stock. Maybe @softwateronly has a lead. https://north-one.jp/products/0036282110861

@woolleyfooley Level Wind, in this case, hand level wind. Since we're talking about NLW (non-level-wind) reels. this was caught off the far beach - 200' retrieves were totally mindless - threadline with a good base wrap takes care of itself.

@woolleyfooley top to bottom 7'5" Valleyhill Hard Rock CPRC-75MHS (solid tip) - inshore for 1/4 oz jerkbait to 1 oz topwaters. 6'7" Valleyhill Raison Odessa ROC67MMM baitfinesse - this is a one-rod reservoir jewel for neds to medium cranks. Bottom is 7'3' Abu Protytype XKRC 73MLS Kurodai (black sea perch) baitfinesse. I can handle 3 rods on kayak, but if I only got one, I could do everything with this one, close-fishing tiny shrimp lures, drifting flats, crossing tide passes. It's hard to put down (except maybe for a shorter rod close fishing or MH for big topwaters), but so many days, it has brought home a redfish limit. I also would look for closeouts of Daiwa Black Label in baitfinesse sizes. I bought the 5-pc travel 6'6" ML, and it's among the very best and most versatile rods I own. It fishes well beyond both rated lure weight ends.

After telling myself I wasn't going to post on this thread, here's my kingfish trolling rig. Seigler SGN on TackleDirect Platinum Kingfish. My lever drag, USA-made, has a beautiful spool design - it always lays a tight LW to the left by itself - all you have to do is push a fast LW to the right with your rod-grip thumb. It will do this for 350 yds. I have it backed with 300 yds 40-lb braid and 50-yds 30-lb fluoro leader on top. Set-drag at 8 lbs. (35 lbs possible)

My experience with solid tip is they're only hyper flexible on XUL finesse spinning rods. Solid tip is used on bait rods up to MH, and they're not goosey, just proper response for soft plastics. Since I'm here, @softwateronly followed my lead on Abu Prototype XKR, and he was delighted enough to go back for more. Also consider this rhetorical perspective - this is the most difficult chore I've asked of a rod and reel, so I want to start cheap. I'd go the other way - see what's a step up from entry level.

@king fisher old braided silk fly lines were mastic-varnished then waxed. They didn't float, but sat on the surface tension. You have to carry a chamois to keep them wringed-out. I used to pick the good ones from antique reels, refurbish and sell to cane-rod fishers. I fished them a few times just to say I did it.

specific gravity of water is 1.00 specific gravity (density) of nylon mono is 1.10 specific gravity of fluorocarbon is 1.78 specific gravity of seawater is 1.03, so mono is 30% more buoyant in salt. Sinking mono fish story from 19-y-o. Fishing from a lighted tee-pier on Lake LBJ in the summer, I cast out 1/16 oz. Panther Martin on Daiwa Minicast, stripped line from the reel and leaned the rod on the rail. Sat down and let everything sink. Then retrieved along the bottom of the sandy cove and up to my light. I caught a white bass every third cast. They weren't happy with the hot water in the cove, but wanted the bait in the light - they hugged the bottom, darted up to feed, and ran back to the deeper colder water to breathe. My retrieve exactly followed their trail. The dock was lined with people, and I caught the only fish. Filleted 17 before I went to bed and slept in the next day. (of course my dad went fishing without me)