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Makes me wonder for how much the HD can be had directly while being in Japan, when its already cheap through amazon for $240.

No, just Abu in particular because they're part of the "big 3".

I don't want to say that Abus are overpriced, but i have to say that they're well overpriced😁 When Shimano and Daiwa exist, what is the point of going with Abu? They don't offer a single product that is superior to the other two, their higher end reels are as expensive as Japan Made Shimanos and Daiwas, they don't retain their value in the used market, and because of the low yen, Shimanos and especially Daiwas can be had for crazy deals. How is Abu Garcia surviving against these two?

I'd bet money he doesn't spend more than 15 days on the water a year. And when he is on the water, don't expect 8h+ of fishing, but more like 2-4h. He doesn't seem to be like someone who fishes much at all.

The reel is super popular on reddit, tackletour and youtube comments as well.

I hope nobody in here got influenced by googan squad, and bought their rods🤡

Next time you see him, tell him to get his ass back making videos.

Really? Entertainment is entertainment. sure agree about tackleadvisors. By far the best fishing channel on youtube.

Now that i got your full attention😅, how do you all feel about youtubers (him and others) suggestions? Have you purchased a reel or a rod because of a youtube content creator? If so, who?

Just bought the previous version back in November. While the rod feels very powerful, haven't had the time to properly test its sensitivity, and the rod is kinda tip heavy. The newer ones sure look better, tho. I would assume they're made in China, and not in Japan like 2 gens ago?

$233 for THIS is laughably good. What have we ever seen being a better deal when it comes to baitcasters? I can't think of a single reel that is this good, and this cheap. Not only is it a good base, but its a tuned version, while still ultra cheap. And people are buying Curados🤣

Never ordered one from amazon because japanese auctions have all what i would ever need. But if you're not into that, the japanese amazon seems great for the zill and the zill hd.

lol that ain't even remotely light. Any 100 size spool can cast it without any issues, let alone newer spools, which also tend to be lighter than older ones. You'll be perfectly fine with its stock spool.

I do. The difference in construction of the alphas tw (Thailand) and the jdm 21 Zillion is pretty much null, but if i am about to spend a decent amount of money on a fishing reel (especially for reels in the $300+), i want to see that Made In Japan tag no matter what. How about y'all?

How light are we talking about? Not to mention that with that reel, you have acess to the highest amount of stock and aftermarket spools of any other reel platform, so if you need to cast 1/8oz, plenty of spools for that. On aliexpress alone you can grab a cheapo one for $30 that can cast light baits np.

For jerkbaits, the lighter the better, so the met dc wins here. But from Shimano, my personal fav baitcaster for jerkbaits is the Alde MGL 30.

You're paying that $200 for warranty, warranty you never need for baitcasters. If you're buying one, only buy from Japan. USDM prices are laughable.

Look at shimano putting DC on everything they have just so they could resell the same frames under a "new reel", and then i am being told that Daiwa has no reason to release DC reels when the patent expires in a few months. Very naive🤗 As for what's coming, the Anteres looks cool, but unless its >6.5oz and palms small, i don't think i will ever be interested in buying one.

I believe it, i have heard multiple in real life (mostly walleye fisherman). Their reasoning is "i like their simple looks". But i'd bet you anything that if they saw a rod from Graphiteleader, Studio Composite, or the non "flashy" rods from megabass like the P5 line, they'd be all over them, and would prefer them over Loomis's rods. I get the "simple looks", i love how my Studio Composite Transword rod looks like, its very clean, and has zero flash to it, but everything is perfect, and there's nothing that you see on the rod that you'd wish to be done in a cleaner way. I also don't really understand why these rods weren't cosmetically improved ever since Shimano acquired them. To think that good looking rods don't attrack customers is very foolish. A good example is the Zodias line. Complete garbage rods in my opinion (mainly because of the blank sensitivity and balance), but a very popular line of rods from shimano since they came out a decade ago.

I can say the same thing about you not needing a $500 rod to catch fish, but everyone is still buying them. Why is that? Because when you get a poor day on the water, its much better to be using quality than some googan squad trash. Loomis has zero excuse for making such ugly rods. Unless of course they're competing with Ugly Stick, and we are simply not aware of it.

These things are unacceptable for any rod that is worth over $70 to me, but even if everything was flawless, what is up with the GLX, NRX and the NRX+ looking ghetto as hell? How is it that from generation to generation, its going from ghetto looks to ghetto looks? If a $35 rod from Aliexpress can look like a $350 rod, i don't want to hear anybody telling me that a $500+ can't or shouldn't look sweet. Loomis rods straight up looking like they're from 1985-1997 to me. Never understood what's their deal about.

100mm handle with power knobs, 10BB, meta star drag, engine cover and zero adjuster collar. Looks much higher end as well. Not sure how a reel can surpass this as $240.

Zillion over everything available, including the 24 Met DC. Zil HD for $240 on amazon jp is a ridiculous deal. And while the standard 21 Zillion for $210 is amazing, for an additional cost of a vision 110, the upgrade is 1000% worth it to the HD version.

The newer braking system from Shimano is much better for casting distance, but unless you fish from the bank, where every feet might matter, additional casting distance isn't that important. I use a Pixy from 04 a ton every season, and it doesn't feel like a 20 years old reel at all (reel isn't stock, tho).

Personally would take a metanium over anything Anteres. They're way too heavy and bulky for a bass reel.