I've heard using the polamar knot for fluorocarbon above 12 or so pound test is not good. The palomar knot is so easy to tie. What knot should I use that's both efficient and easy to tie. I've tried the Eugene knot, but I've had trouble with it and don't always get that 'popping' sound (which they say you should hear when it is seated properly). Any suggestions?

Pitzen Knot (also know as the 16-20 or Duncan Knot)

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

San Diego Jam knot

http://ultimatefishingblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/san-diego-jam-knot-reverse-clinch-knot.html

Uni knot. The easiest and strongest knot I've found.

San Diego Jam knot

http://ultimatefishi...linch-knot.html

Yep

Mike

Uni knot. The easiest and strongest knot I've found.

pass throught the eye twice into UNI, in knot wars head to head its stronger than the palomar knot.

Pitzen Knot (also know as the 16-20 or Duncan Knot)

http://www.orlandoou.../knot.asp?id=12

I have switched every knot I tie to this knot. Simple and easy. The Palomar knot is very strong and easy to tie with a bare hook, but a pain in the butt when using a large crank with 2-3 hooks. I don't lose near as much line with the Pitzen knot after tying either.

San Diego Jam knot

http://ultimatefishi...linch-knot.html

Love this knot.

Pitzen Knot (also know as the 16-20 or Duncan Knot)

http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

On the web page it says can be difficult with heavier line ( I think it said 10 - 15 lbs ). Anyone have this problem?

I started using the San Diego Jam this year and am very pleased with it. I would say it is the best knot I have ever used on flouro.

Never had an issue with a properly tied Palomar. If you rush any knot, you're setting yourself up for failure at the worst time. Whatever knot you choose, spend some time practicing it until you can do it blindfolded. Make sure you use plenty of lube/spit when you cinch down a knot with fluorocarbon.

San Diego jam knot

San Diego Jam knot

http://ultimatefishi...linch-knot.html

x2

works for braid, mono, FC

I spent an hour or two practicing the double San Diego Jam knot and sometimes I'm having difficulty seating it properly.

Are there any specific 'quirks' / idiosincracies / little things that you do to help you tie this knot?

The San Diego Jam knot is very good. I use it up to 50lb test for saltwater.

BTW - The Palomar knot is fine up to 50lb as well for mono or flouro. Anything higher than that I use the Reverse Trilene.

Palomar or improved clinch.

Modified Uni. Since I started using it I have never broken off at the knot. It gives a hole new meaning to using Fluoro and gives you all the benefits without the worries of break offs. Just and amazing Knot with Fluoro. Still use Palomar for everything else.

I spent an hour or two practicing the double San Diego Jam knot and sometimes I'm having difficulty seating it properly.

Are there any specific 'quirks' / idiosincracies / little things that you do to help you tie this knot?

I had that problem with the normal san diego jam knot if I add too many wraps

Aaron martens says too many wraps can reach a point of diminishing returns, I agree.

If I do a ton of wraps it often settles poorly. So try backing off the number of wraps, set the knot, then pull the main line to check it for any slippage, if not then you are set! If it slips then too little wraps. With heavier line I'll only use 2-3 wraps on a san diego jam, I check it but never have a problem with slippage.

I'm assuming this will work with the double sandiego jam as well

I had that problem with the normal san diego jam knot if I add too many wraps

Aaron martens says too many wraps can reach a point of diminishing returns, I agree.

If I do a ton of wraps it often settles poorly. So try backing off the number of wraps, set the knot, then pull the main line to check it for any slippage, if not then you are set! If it slips then too little wraps. With heavier line I'll only use 2-3 wraps on a san diego jam, I check it but never have a problem with slippage.

I'm assuming this will work with the double sandiego jam as well

I'm gonna have to try that. I allways wrap 6 times with 15# and down with 4 for 20#.

Thanks

Mike

3-4 wraps it is. Especially with the double sand diego jam knot. Thanks!

While I don't tie this knot often it really is one of the strongest knots for any line type.

I did a test and used 10# floro and tied just about every knot I could, this knot always came out on top, it has never broke at the knot for me. I would pull till it broke and did a stress test by yanking hard like setting a hook and this knot never failed when many other knots did.

"The Berkley Braid Knot, developed by Berkley, is meant to tie braided line to lures, hooks, or terminal tackle. Even though it was developed for braided line, it is great for monofilament and fluorocarbon too."