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Hey guys, I am sure this has been covered countless times but I can't seem to get the answer I am looking for. Right not I am trying to spool 30# 832 braid and I was going to use some left over mono I had for backing. The problem I am having is getting the knot to lay flat. When I tie the improved albright knot it creates a hump when spooling the braid making it lay unevenly.  This is the first time I am using backing so is this an issue that everyone just deals with? I know the purpose of it is to save money for the amount of line used and to also prevent the braid from slipping on the spool. Cost aside, am I better off tying the braid right to the spool through one of the holes in the spool? The only videos I can find are tying the leader to the braid but not the braid to the backing.  Thanks again guys.

 

Frank

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I use Albright for backing to braid and braid to leader. Never had an issue with either.

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Hey frank

If you find tackle junky81 on you tube he has a couple of videos on tying braid to mono, I think the video is called balancing the spool. He presses the knot down into the mono as much as he can. In my experience I don't notice the lump after 75yards of braid on top of the mono. I hope that helped.

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30# braid is pretty thin so when you tie the improved albright (alberto), it shouldn't make that big of a knot depending on the mono line size.  The thicker the mono, the bigger the knot will be.  Since the diameter of the braid is going to be thinner, I make my wraps using the braid.  You just have to be careful when tying, and make sure the line overlaps nicely when tied, as this is pretty key for a thin knot.  If it doesn't overlap nicely, the line clumps up when tightened.  If you still don't like it, try experimenting with other line-to-line knots.

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Thanks for the replys guys. Maybe my issue is the quality of my knot. I will practice a little more before spooling. 

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i use a 2 wrap uni knot for backing. you could probably use 1. i very rarely cast to the backing knot and when i do, it's time to change line anyway. i cut the tag ends as close to the knot as humanly possible too. just give the knot a few good tugs after tying it if you go the route i do and you will be fine. 

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Ive never had a problem with a uni to uni knot. if I put braid directly to the spool i usually put a single layer of electrical tape on the spool before i put the braid on. seemed to work for me. 

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I just use a uni to uni in this case, not an Alberto.

X2, this is a good strong knot and is even the recommended knot to use on power pro's website.

http://www.powerpro.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/power_pro_v2/info/using_powerpro/knots/uni_to_uni_splice.html

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I use the Alberto for braid to backing, and braid to leader. No issues.

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This is a normal thing. The only thing that helps keep that uneven lay from occurring is by trying to work the line guide into laying the knot against the edge of the spool.

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I use the Alberto for braid to backing, and braid to leader. No issues.

Shouldn't have any issues, that knot is designed for use with uneven diameters.  I might try using less wraps, the knot still will be plenty strong and you will never get down to it anyway.

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x2 on Garret88's suggestion (except different knot). For my baitcaster, I use the Alberto knot and use a small piece of electrical tape to hold and smooth the knot down.

 

For my spinning reel, I spool on just a bit more braid than my absolute longest possible cast and that covers up the knot just fine.

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I don't even use a knot when I use braid. I put on my backing, then use a small piece of electrical tape to hold down the tag end of my backing line and my braided line. Then reel on my 100yards of braid, or whatever the case may be. I never intend to be able to cast far enough to reach the backing, so a knot doesn't matter.

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I use a Uni-knot to Uni-knot.

Just as important as the knot however,

is how close to the knot you trim the tag-end  :yes:

 

Roger

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I use the braid only on the spool. After a year I take it off and re-spool it with the fresh end out. Line is new again. I use tape on the spool to keep it from slipping.

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I use the braid only on the spool. After a year I take it off and re-spool it with the fresh end out. Line is new again. I use tape on the spool to keep it from slipping.

 

That's the way to go  :thumbsup_blue:

I fill my spool entirely with Fireline braid which totally eliminates a junction knot (smooth sailing till re-spool).

 

Roger

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