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So I picked up a 2nd PX68l off the internet. Description said that the spool doesn't rotate freely. It arrived today and automatically it was time for a complete tear down to the bare frame for a clean it up and to add some parts to it. The pictures are self explanatory. Also the reason why the spool wouldn't spin more then one revolution with the thumb bar disengaged. There's no need for this amount of grease. Took a bit to get it all clean but it's good now.

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About how most Shimanos look new, just caked in grease. 

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Reel is over greased, but I am having a problem making the connection from your pictures as to why the spool would not turn when disengaged.

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Just says it doesn't rotate freely, not that it doesn't turn. I'm assuming that means that it wasn't casting very far or wasn't free spooling like it should be, which is to be expected with that amount of grease in the reel sticking to everything. 

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Just says it doesn't rotate freely, not that it doesn't turn. I'm assuming that means that it wasn't casting very far or wasn't free spooling like it should be, which is to be expected with that amount of grease in the reel sticking to everything. 

I see what your saying, but once the reel is disengaged none of those parts have an effect on free spool. 

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I'm just guessing that at least a little bit of that grease would be getting onto the spool shaft and just a little bit would be slowing the spool down a lot. I'm a long ways from a reel mechanic though. 

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No spool shaft on this reel. Free floating spool, but yes you got the idea. Not all Daiwa's are free floating though. Some have a spool shaft.

The spool rotated smoothly but it wouldn't free spool more than one turn due to grease on everything. Including all the bearings. My cup of solution looked like it had dandruff from all the grease in them. Gotta love brake cleaner. It'll break down anything,and fast too.

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I'm just guessing that at least a little bit of that grease would be getting onto the spool shaft and just a little bit would be slowing the spool down a lot. I'm a long ways from a reel mechanic though. 

Daiwa uses a free floating spool, in this reel,  so there is no spool shaft that protrudes through the inside of the pinion.

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No spool shaft on this reel. Free floating spool, but yes you got the idea. Not all Daiwa's are free floating though. Some have a spool shaft.

The spool rotated smoothly but it wouldn't free spool more than one turn due to grease on everything. Including all the bearings. My cup of solution looked like it had dandruff from all the grease in them. Gotta love brake cleaner. It'll break down anything,and fast too.

If the bearings had as much grease on them as the rest of the reel, that would definitely eliminate any free spool.

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Daiwa uses a free floating spool, in this reel,  so there is no spool shaft that protrudes through the inside of the pinion.

Got ya, I have zero experience with cleaning Daiwa's, good information to know. 

 

For sure cleaning that grease out is badly needed. 

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I just got a Daiwa Tatula Type R last month, and I am a little disappointed in its casting distance. My Speed Spools can out cast it, not by much, but I expect more from a reel with double the price tag. Could this be the reason it doesnt cast quite as far as I think it should?

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My guess is that it needs to have the spool bearings flushed and re oiled. 1 small drop of a good low viscosity oil is all you need. I have 3 Tatula's and they hang right there with some of my higher end Daiwas that have upgraded spools and boca os7 bearings.

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I just got a Daiwa Tatula Type R last month, and I am a little disappointed in its casting distance. My Speed Spools can out cast it, not by much, but I expect more from a reel with double the price tag. Could this be the reason it doesnt cast quite as far as I think it should?

 

Probably.  Send it to DVT for a thorough cleaning and proper re-lube.  My Type R casts as far as any of my other reels.  Not all reels are packed like that with grease.  My T3 1016 was very dry.

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Looks like tree sap.

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I just got a Daiwa Tatula Type R last month, and I am a little disappointed in its casting distance. My Speed Spools can out cast it, not by much, but I expect more from a reel with double the price tag. Could this be the reason it doesnt cast quite as far as I think it should?

 

Have you cleaned your Lew's. I know they come greased from the factory, but maybe not as much as your Daiwa. I know the Revos come from the factory completely dry.

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 I know the Revos come from the factory completely dry.

Revos are lubed 100% adequately from the factory.  All 8 of my STX's were anyway... :)
 
On the subject of maintenance and lubes, I agree with using as little as needed.  Keeping it evenly spread is the key, clumps of grease end up being wasted and will likely gum up everything inside...Probably part of what happened to OP's reel before he got it.
 
Grease for gears, oil for bearings (DUH!).
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Revos are lubed 100% adequately from the factory.  All 8 of my STX's were anyway... :)
 
On the subject of maintenance and lubes, I agree with using as little as needed.  Keeping it evenly spread is the key, clumps of grease end up being wasted and will likely gum up everything inside...Probably part of what happened to OP's reel before he got it.
 
Grease for gears, oil for bearings (DUH!).

 

I actually like grease in all my bearings, except the spool bearings.

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Bet you got a great deal on that reel! I hate ardent butter... Man they really blathered it in there. Nice score...

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I use a mix of a few things. All except the drag grease can be picked up at Walmart and you'll have enough to do years of maintenance.

Marine grease - gears

140wt gear lube - worm gear,sliding parts, and bearings.

Remington oil spool bearings

Cals drag grease - drag washers

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I don't think it's Ardent. I have a tube of it and this is more translucent looking. Plus it smells a lot worse. I actually don't mind the reel butter but I don't use it anymore.

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That is pretty heavily coated with grease. I purchased a couple reels used that were the same exact way. After a a little tlc, well a lot of tlc they were great. Complete cleaning, bearing soak w/ ultrasonic and re lubes.

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Wow. That's a lot of grease.

 

After the last few reels I have purchased, I am convinced that reel manufactures put grease and oil on reels so they can store them instead of putting enough on them to make them function properly.

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Wow. That's a lot of grease.

 

After the last few reels I have purchased, I am convinced that reel manufactures put grease and oil on reels so they can store them instead of putting enough on them to make them function properly.

 

That, and the fact that a lot of the owners will never lube/maintain them properly, so they'll be plenty of extra grease inside to hopefully last for the long haul....

 

Tight lines,

Bob

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plenty of extra grease inside to hopefully last for the long haul....

 

 

Translation - Warranty period

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