i perfer a squarebill because i get the delfection of the bill>

Squarebill.  For the same reason..

Need a button for both.

Why?

Cause the bass like both!

Big bad dudes don't know how to manuever a lipless crank through wood.

lol I have trouble with regular squarebills in cover, don't even mention liplesses. Need to work on my cover cranking.....

squarebill no question for me

A squarebill will be able to float it's way out of trouble and of course has a bill that can at least deflect the bait to avoid hang ups.

I dont have much of a reason, just prefer lipless

 When launching into the Lumber, Sometimes the squarebill ends up Lipless . . . . I hate that. 

A-Jay

 

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Need a button for both.

Why?

Cause the bass like both!

i did add both

 

I prefer lipless but a square bill will deflect better

Definitely a squarebill, because it floats. If I backlash a tiny bit, or misplace a cast by a few feet a lipless crank can sink  and get itself stuck before I can even start to work it over the cover.

Believe it or don't, but there are different kinds of wood/brush.  Vertical, rooted in the bottom with nearly all the side branches gone?  Vertical, rooted in the bottom with large or small side branches intact?  Laydowns from the bank?   Laydowns that used to be on the bank and now that the lake has gone through several rising and falling cycles it now resides in the middle of the lake?   Brush?  Thin brush - heavy brush - thorny brush?  This stuff occurs in various combinations as well.

If you're going to fish wood, I'd recommend carrying one ( or more than one)of each.  While you are at it, might as well have a spinnerbait tied on, probably a chatter bait also.  A wood/vegetation combo, maybe a swim jig is in order. . . . . and so it goes.

This begin given, when I start to fish around wood and I've determined that I'm going to fish a reaction bait as opposed to some plastic/jig bait, I start with a Timber Tiger that is appropriate to the depth.   Most of the time that means a DC8.   Nearly all the time I also have a DC13 and a DC4 tied on.  If you've never fished Timber Tigers, they come through wood and brush better than any other square bill I've encountered.

To be completely honest I have never even thought about throwing  a lips into the wood. However, I do recall watching a lure modification video or two where the front treble hook was removed to make it more snag proof. I have more lipless cranks then I know what to do with, so this spring I think I will try throwing them in the heavy stuff and seeing what they can pull out. 

Right now we are in the early stages of pre-spawn & I will be ricocheting Traps off of standing timber!

Ironically, the last squarebill I got, I found buried into the side of a floating laydown. KVD 2.5.  Fortunately, I had 30 lb. braid on one of my rods, so I casted till I snagged it, then horsed the whole d**n tree to the shore. A little clean-up and she's back in the game.

I'm going with square bills but there was a time the Pico Perch was my go to standing timber lure . White with blue eyes .

14 hours ago, Raul said:

Big bad dudes don't know how to manuever a lipless crank through wood.

 

11 hours ago, Catt said:

Right now we are in the early stages of pre-spawn & I will be ricocheting Traps off of standing timber!

Would you guys describe how you fish lipless in wood? I'm paranoid around wood with a lipless.

Bill Lewis designed the Rat-L-Trap for fishing the standing timber on Toledo Bend. It's nose down attitude allows the top of the Trap to hit first causing it to ricochet off.

I simply guide my Trap with the rod tip on a path the leads it to ricochet off the stump with a glancing blow.

Do I occasionally hang?

Why certainly but no more than any other  exposed hook lure. The key with any crank in "wood" is DO NOT SET HOOK!

22 minutes ago, Catt said:

The key with any crank in "wood" is DO NOT SET HOOK!

Bingo.

That said, and going back to the OP: I find fat plugs fish through cover of any type better than thin ones, lipless esp. The more complex (branches, twigs and such) the less apt I am to throw a lipless.

2 minutes ago, Paul Roberts said:

Bingo.

That said, and going back to the OP: I find fat plugs fish through cover of any type better than thin ones, lipless esp. The more complex (branches, twigs and such) the less apt I am to throw a lipless.

I ain't talking limbs, branches, or brush!

I talking standing timber, ya know stumps!

When Bill invented the Trap the trees on Toledo not only had branches but the branches had leaves!

20 minutes ago, Catt said:

Bill Lewis designed the Rat-L-Trap for fishing the standing timber on Toledo Bend. It's nose down attitude allows the top of the Trap to hit first causing it to ricochet off.

I simply guide my Trap with the rod tip on a path the leads it to ricochet off the stump with a glancing blow.

Do I occasionally hang?

Why certainly but no more than any other  exposed hook lure. The key with any crank in "wood" is DO NOT SET HOOK!

 

Just now, Paul Roberts said:

Bingo.

That said, and going back to the OP: I find fat plugs fish through cover of any type better than thin ones, lipless esp. The more complex (branches, twigs and such) the less apt I am to throw a lipless.

Tip ~ By removing the front treble and split ring and replace them with a Gamakatsu EWG Dbl Frog Hooks (or the double hook of your choice) you may increase the baits ability to come through this stuff a bit.  The back treble could also be replaced but may not be necessary. 

Important note: ensure hook points are pointing UP. 

A-Jay

AJ, have you tried it? Does it hook well?

Squarebill does deflect better, but you can learn how to use a lipless quite effectively in timber.

2 hours ago, A-Jay said:

 

Tip ~ By removing the front treble and split ring and replace them with a Gamakatsu EWG Dbl Frog Hooks (or the double hook of your choice) you may increase the baits ability to come through this stuff a bit.  The back treble could also be replaced but may not be necessary. 

Important note: ensure hook points are pointing UP. 

A-Jay

I have friends who simply cut the front hook point off leaving two points, I don't...caught too many fish on that front hook.