6 hours ago, scaleface said:

I'm going with square bills but there was a time the Pico Perch was my go to standing timber lure . White with blue eyes .

Still have some and they still catch fish.

1 hour ago, Paul Roberts said:

AJ, have you tried it? Does it hook well?

I have done this - and yes it does work,  I'll say that the double hook deal seems to reduce a little in the area of fish hook up ratio the same way it reduces hang ups,  Give some to get some.  Also, I had to get over (and build confidence in) the fact that this type of front hook does not swing freely under the bait but instead remains quite static under the lure as it travels forward and on the drop. Still catches bass though.

A-Jay

Hang ups is the reason for the 24 to 4 results.

They're afraid to put a Trap where the big girls live; oh they'll put em in grass cause they can rip em out!

Of course I could be prejudice since my personal best of 12.5 hit a Trap!

Just now, Catt said:

Hang ups is the reason for the 24 to 4 results.

They're afraid to put a Trap where the big girls live; oh they'll put em in grass cause they can rip em out!

Of course I could be prejudice since my personal best of 12.5 hit a Trap!

I hear ya - my 11-11 PB came on a lipless bait in Mutant Mexican Thorn bushes - no hook mod except up size up grade.

A-Jay

40 minutes ago, Catt said:

Hang ups is the reason for the 24 to 4 results.

They're afraid to put a Trap where the big girls live; oh they'll put em in grass cause they can rip em out!

Of course I could be prejudice since my personal best of 12.5 hit a Trap!

That's the difference between boyz and we, hairy chest, real macho men who hunt beeg mommas where beeg mommas wanna hang out, too afraid too loose them lures. 

Oh definitely a squarebill. Hit the cover then let it float a second then proceed to reel. Best way to catch em.

Between the two, I will fish a squarebill in wood almost 100% of the time. It comes through much better, and produces, no need to toss a lipless into a laydown and risk losing it. I use lipless baits often.............just not in wood. Maybe if I had standing timber/stumps/etc......it would be an option, but 99% of the "wood" I fish is laydowns, often willow, and/or locust trees, with an occasional hard wood.

Squarebill in the wood cover. But I usually have a lipless crank tied on anyway.

Have y'all tried Bill Lewis's Echo 1.75?

I've been looking at that Echo. It looks well designed -big and wide.