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Is there a way to rig a tube with one of the top quality tube hooks (e.g. TK190) AND an inside weight?  I've tried bell sinkers but the loop is always too small for the TK190 keeper to thread through.  Are there any slick ways to rig this up?  I've long used EWG hooks with traditional inside tube weights - they skip great and do catch fish but I'm after the better hook-up percentage that comes with the specialized tube hooks, which don't work with the traditional inside weights because of the angled hook penetration.  So I'm currently stumped.  Any ideas, anyone?

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Maybe you could try the bell sinker with a small snap attached to the loop. That should give you a bigger opening to fit the keeper through. 

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have you ever tried using soft plastic glue to glue a sinker inside of a tube?

 

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't see how the Trokar hook would much different than using the internal weights and Grigsby HP hook setup with tubes. Haven't tried the Trokars, but have used the HPs with shown weight for years. The gap on the weight should be big enough to accommodate the Trokars, even if a little finagling or creative shaving is needed.

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Google "The Stupid Tube Rig" I've been useing this for years and it works!

(Could never figure out how to post pictures here, or I would for you)

 

 

Mike 

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5 minutes ago, Mike L said:

Google "The Stupid Tube Rig" I've been useing this for years and it works! (Could never figure out how to post pictures here, or I would for you)

Mike 

 

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8 minutes ago, Turtle135 said:

 

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Thanks Turtle!

 

Mike 

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I have used the tube weights for twenty years.  The weights designed to go in the tube are great but not easy to rig properly.  I used a #1 or 2 Gama thin WGH wire hook.  Worked great, but I don't  throw them often.

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The TK190 and similar, straight shanked soft plastic hooks are designed for T-rigging.  That big keeper just won't fit through all but the bigger bell sinkers.  It is possible, however, to super glue a round split-shot inside the tube making sure to leave enough plastic behind the nose for the hook's keeper to pass between the nose and weight.. You can also glue a rattle inside, but I recommend doing both in advance

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I really like the Owner Phantom tube hooks. 

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Thanks a TON for the responses.  I didn't know about the Stupid Tube or that Grigsby HP hook (with a bell) - both look like they have excellent promise for the weedless, inside-weighted tube skipping application I'm after (for docks).  Tight lines all!

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The Owner Phantom Tube is the best way to go.  I like the Trokar Tube Hook for solid tubes like the ones made by Keitech.
 

 

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Use a regular EWG hook and a Lindy EZ tube internal weight, the weight is designed to be used with offset shank worm hooks in order to keep the weight in the center. Using the EWG gives you a bigger bite than a standard worm hook but not quite as large as the tube hook but it still has enough for good hook penetration.

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57 minutes ago, dlewisfl said:

The Owner Phantom Tube is the best way to go...

 

I have used those before & like them with one exception.  Is there a way to rig them without having to retire every time you use a new tube?

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On 1/18/2017 at 4:11 PM, OCdockskipper said:

I have used those before & like them with one exception.  Is there a way to rig them without having to retire every time you use a new tube?

I haven't used them in a while, don't remember any tricks.  I don't recall having problems when using the Owner hooks and hollow tubes.  I've been using the solid Keitech tubes whenever tying a tube on in past couple of years.

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On 01/18/2017 at 4:11 PM, OCdockskipper said:

I have used those before & like them with one exception.  Is there a way to rig them without having to retire every time you use a new tube?

Pre rig a few before hand

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On 07/01/2016 at 11:01 AM, IDUTBass said:

I really like the Owner Phantom tube hooks. 

This is exactly what I was going to say.Its a weighted tube hook but the weight is in place of the screwlock.Plus its Owner.

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On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2016 at 10:01 AM, IDUTBass said:

I really like the Owner Phantom tube hooks. 

 

This is also my favorite for fishing tubes...

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3 hours ago, Montanaro said:

Pre rig a few before hand

 

If you mean prerig a few tubes before hand, then that still means you have to retie. 

 

What I am asking is in regards to the rigging instructions that come with the hooks.  The instructions show that they must be rigged to the tube & then tied to the line.

 

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Other than adding a small snap (which I dislike), it means after just about every fish, you need to retie.

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1 hour ago, OCdockskipper said:

 

If you mean prerig a few tubes before hand, then that still means you have to retie. 

 

What I am asking is in regards to the rigging instructions that come with the hooks.  The instructions show that they must be rigged to the tube & then tied to the line.

 

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Other than adding a small snap (which I dislike), it means after just about every fish, you need to retie.

 

There is no other solution Im afraid.

 

And tubes are typically tough as nails in my experience.

 

Retying a tube is much easier than rigging a new one up and then tying especially in tournament situation or when the fishing is hot.

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I just started making my own awhile back and they've been working great.

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Looking for options with 1/0 hooks for 2.5-2.75" tubes. The Phantoms and Stupid heads don't go that small.

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On 1/18/2017 at 3:31 PM, smalljaw67 said:

Use a regular EWG hook and a Lindy EZ tube internal weight, the weight is designed to be used with offset shank worm hooks in order to keep the weight in the center. Using the EWG gives you a bigger bite than a standard worm hook but not quite as large as the tube hook but it still has enough for good hook penetration.

Does the weight prevent the tube from slipping and jacking up hooksets?

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