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To those who think highend braid doesn't bleed...

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So over the course of only the past couple months, I've seen a lot of people raggin' on people who say their braid bleed really bad... especially on TW reviews.  This post is to show it does happen whether you believe it or not as well as serve as kind of a product review.

Well here you go, one of the best braid you can buy and what it looks like after 20mins of fishing in my neighborhood pond... this is 40lb SeaguarSmackdown btw...

This is a pic of my the line, and the dye, getting all over my Shimano Exsence DC and DC734c.  At the pond the pics were taken after 10mins of using the line.  The garage pics are when I got back home, but like I said before, the line wasn't used for more than 20mins total.  You can see where it even started to discolor my reel seat and the reel body itself, thank god for magic erasers and some scrubbing power.  After cleaning this up, I went out and tried the same line in 30lb version on my Daiwa Zillion and DC735c.  The line this time was treated with KVD Line&Lure, same thing happened.  Don't have pics of that reel though, forgot my phone at the house when I went out.  But that is 2 different spools I bought that bled their color like this.

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The line basically went from looking darker than new Sufix832 to looking like PP Spectra 8, pretty sad...

Now I love InvizX and Siege, but as far as the Smackdown I'll be going back to 832.

 

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Any braid I've tried has bled. Some are just worse than others. A rough guess would be about 10 different lines from varying companies. Personally the color of the braid doesn't make a difference to me. I'm looking for a smooth and quiet line. I'm a big fan of 832 and I have it on a lot of reels, but I'm slowing switching to J braid. Tough to beat 330 yards of an 8 carrier braid for $20. 

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6 minutes ago, rippin-lips said:

Any braid I've tried has bled. Some are just worse than others. A rough guess would be about 10 different lines from varying companies. Personally the color of the braid doesn't make a difference to me. I'm looking for a smooth and quiet line. I'm a big fan of 832 and I have it on a lot of reels, but I'm slowing switching to J braid. Tough to beat 330 yards of an 8 carrier braid for $20. 

I agree that all lose color, however very few actually bleed so much like this to start staining the gear and drip green dye all over the place.  I've never had this happen with 832 and I've bought countless spools of it.  Of course when I try something new it bites me in the ass... lol.

Also, I've never had this happen with PP Slick 8, but I've probably bought less than 10 spools of that.

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I had 1 spool of #30 j braid do that in the beginning but it didn't last long. The other spools haven't really bled at all. Yes, a lot of times it can bite you. Exactly why I've tried a bunch of braids and settled on a few. 

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Sorry to hear about this. It is also one of the reasons I am not a big braid guy. Most lines make a mess especially when they are new.

Not trying to pick on ya, but the rod in the pic is a Champion and not a DX.

Great choice on the reel! I have 2 and they are simply amazing.

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Could be the KVD making it worse.  All lines bleed initially but I have never seen it drip off or anything like that.

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I've had braided line fade from green to pale white but never had it bleed that much that it drips. I use PowerPro and haven't seen that on my braid.

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I've heard about all these people having braid bleed like crazy, I fortunately have not had any of these issues with power pro. I'm looking forward to trying the J braid soon.

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All braids bleed because the polyethylene strand the braid is made from is colorless and has very low surface friction. It is a filament of plastic, like monofilament or fluorocarbon, but stronger and slicker. Unlike monofilament line, it is not possible to add color to the polymer mixture before it is extruded. For braided fishing line, colorless strands of polyethylene are woven together, and the resultant braided line then appears white. Then the coloring is added. The dye is essentially added to the surface of slick plastic filaments. It is the little spaces in the braid that are relied upon to hold the dye. Unless you want a white braid, the coloring is simply going to bleed. To try to make the braid darker the manufacturers add extra dye, so it ends up bleeding more. That's the best the current technology can offer. But braided line is thin and low friction and strong as hell, so regardless, we're lucky to have braided line available to us for fishing.

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That's strange.  I've been using smackdown for several seasons now and I've never had a problem with bleeding like that.  I mean yeah, it fades and if you ran it through your fingers there's a little green left behind but I've never seen anything like that in my usage.  

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2 hours ago, flyfisher said:

Could be the KVD making it worse.  All lines bleed initially but I have never seen it drip off or anything like that.

One used KVD on daiwa, the shimano did not

2 hours ago, kickerfish1 said:

Sorry to hear about this. It is also one of the reasons I am not a big braid guy. Most lines make a mess especially when they are new.

Not trying to pick on ya, but the rod in the pic is a Champion and not a DX.

Great choice on the reel! I have 2 and they are simply amazing.

Fixed, idk how I did that.  

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Of all the concerns related to fishing, braid bleed is somewhere below ankle/tube/or no socks. 

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I've never had power pro bleed on me. It fades, that's about it.

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I've always kind of wanted to try that Toray Bawo braid because it's got the increment markings on it, but I always wondered if you'd only be able to see them for a week or what...  No braid can hold color forever.  

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I guess I'm wondering why the braid bleeding is important?

It seems like folks who find this a critical problem don't want to use braid...

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20 minutes ago, Master Bait'r said:

I've always kind of wanted to try that Toray Bawo braid because it's got the increment markings on it, but I always wondered if you'd only be able to see them for a week or what...  No braid can hold color forever.  

It would bleed into a color akin to the milk in a bowl of fruity pebbles.

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54 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Of all the concerns related to fishing, braid bleed is somewhere below ankle/tube/or no socks. 

I had to laugh at that one, NICE!

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4 hours ago, Master Bait'r said:

That's strange.  I've been using smackdown for several seasons now and I've never had a problem with bleeding like that.  I mean yeah, it fades and if you ran it through your fingers there's a little green left behind but I've never seen anything like that in my usage.  

Me too. Smackdown washes out pretty quick, as in not retaining color, but I've never had it bleed like that. Maybe it was the conditioner. One of the best 2 braids I've used but I find myself using fluoro for most everything these days. Something a few years back I said I'd never ever do. 

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9 hours ago, Gundog said:

I've had braided line fade from green to pale white but never had it bleed that much that it drips. I use PowerPro and haven't seen that on my braid.

Same hear, it definitely fades but I never have issues with it bleeding. 

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14 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Of all the concerns related to fishing, braid bleed is somewhere below ankle/tube/or no socks. 

What he said.  Why do folks worry about this?  Yeah, it makes a small mess but it's easy to clean up and isn't permanent.  Let's worry about the more important stuff, like providing a definitive answer on which $100 rod is THE best. :)

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18 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Of all the concerns related to fishing, braid bleed is somewhere below ankle/tube/or no socks. 

Proper fishing socks are a far more serious concern! I believe the only correct answer is ankle socks with shorts, well made crew socks with anything else. Boat shoes can be worn with no socks. You're welcome.

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Socks should be worn as close to the knees as possible. Sun protection, bug deflection, you name it.

Could it be related to the pond that it bled so fast? I fished a lake/pond earlier today where I saw an oil slick bubble to the surface and slowly float away. Maybe some gases in the water if it's kinda swampy?

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I had a spool of Powerpro do that a few years ago.  It was such a dark green, it was almost black.  In 2 trips, it was  looking like your pic.

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