2 minutes ago, Fishin' Fool said:

There is no reason to doubt what Catt is saying.

I don't doubt it, I'm just dense 'sometimes' and I'm trying to understand.

15 minutes ago, Hank. said:

If you cast, let it drop 3 seconds, hold rod at 3º, retrieve at steady medium speed, the bait will travel at about 5’ (more or less) below the surface.

 

If you cast, let it drop 6 seconds, hold rod at 3º, retrieve at steady medium speed, the bait will travel at about 10’ (more or less) below the surface.

 

That depth will gradually become less as you get closer to the boat/bank, but unless you are reeling at a high speed, you can make a lipless swim at whatever depth you want. I know you know this, you must have some point you’re trying to make that I don’t get.

 

Bass at times do not want the retrieve to vary up or down any!

 

This is a very common occurrence during pre-spawn, you'll catch a few with the varying but keep it steady & hang on.

 

Lipless crankbaits down here during pre-spawn is a shallow technique much like a spinnerbait.

Probably 90 percent of the time, I am fishing them one of two ways

1.  Across top of weeds....ticking and or ripping,  but usually trying to touch grass most of the way back.

2.  Lots of falling....to the bottom...on the cast, and with exaggerated (2-4 foot) lifts off the bottom.

*in the winter a technique to try is let the trap sink to the bottom - then yo-yo off the bottom , retrieve a foot or so then repeat . Often bass tend to relate to the bottom in cold water months .

12 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

*in the winter a technique to try is let the trap sink to the bottom - then yo-yo off the bottom , retrieve a foot or so then repeat . Often bass tend to relate to the bottom in cold water months .

I caught some bass on a trap doing this the other day. Let the trap sit on the bottom for a couple of seconds,  then raise the rod tip about a foot or so. Water was 41 degrees. 

I get more strikes ricocheting it off something other than the bottom.

 

Switch to the Red Eye Shad, it's like changing from black & white to a color TV.

 

16 hours ago, Catt said:

Something none of y'all do ?

 

 

That has to work, he is fishing and praying at the same time!