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I have a 7'3" heavy fast dobyns fury that I want to use for heavy cover flipping and pitching and frogging, because my area is littered with grass and pads. Will I risk damaging the rod by running 65 lb braid on it? Or will I most likely be alright?

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I have a H/F Fury. All makers considered, it's more of a MH+, somewhere in-between MH and H. I wouldn't put 65lb braid on mine, but that's just me.

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65lb braid on a heavy action rod should not be a problem. I have a heavy swimbait rod rated for 40-80 lb. 

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The rod sees not the line pound test but sees only the drag setting.  And most reels' drags are capable of only 12 pounds or so, some to 20.  So use whatever line you want to use.

 

Just use the rod properly.  You can fail a rod with 20 pound test as easily as 50 pound test.  It's sort of like a manual transmission clutch.  Treat it properly and it will last forever.  Mistreat it and you can fail it in less than a minute.

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It looks like that rod is rated for up to 20lb test so I would not want to set the drag to more than 6 1/2 lbs.  That should protect your rod but might not be enough for really heavy grass.  You might have to go get some fish in the heavy stuff.

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Dude you'll be absolutely fine.  In fact, you can disregard the line rating on rods all together.  It is meaningless.  Yes, seriously. 

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I've never taken line rating into account when purchasing a rod.   Lure weight yes, line rating no.

 

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Im using Line rate to chose Line. Keep in mind that 20# is the mono line diameter, a braid line same size Will be Much Stronger than that !

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4 hours ago, MickD said:

The rod sees not the line pound test but sees only the drag setting.  And most reels' drags are capable of only 12 pounds or so, some to 20.  So use whatever line you want to use.

 

Just use the rod properly.  You can fail a rod with 20 pound test as easily as 50 pound test.

I pulled a sunken log lodged in the mud that had to be 200-300 lbs in with 20lb test braid last week. Had to wrap the line around me and use my body to do it, but if I used the rod it would’ve definitely broke.

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5 hours ago, JFlynn97 said:

I have a 7'3" heavy fast dobyns fury that I want to use for heavy cover flipping and pitching and frogging, because my area is littered with grass and pads. Will I risk damaging the rod by running 65 lb braid on it? Or will I most likely be alright?

FR 735C?

Tom

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11 hours ago, CrankFate said:

I pulled a sunken log lodged in the mud that had to be 200-300 lbs in with 20lb test braid last week. Had to wrap the line around me and use my body to do it, but if I used the rod it would’ve definitely broke.

It would not have broken if you pointed it directly at the log, but you did it the right way.  I'm just pointing out that if the rod is not bent, it cannot be overloaded.  (You might fail the reel or the reel seat)  We control how much it bends by how we control its attitude relative to the load.

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12 hours ago, CrankFate said:

I pulled a sunken log lodged in the mud that had to be 200-300 lbs in with 20lb test braid last week. Had to wrap the line around me and use my body to do it, but if I used the rod it would’ve definitely broke.

With only 20lb braid? With 20lb braid, I can rather easily pull it out with my hands until I either get back when it's attached to, or the line breaks.

 

Anyway to address the original question, you could add 65lb braid on a Dobyns 734C, but I wouldn't really getting the benefit of using heavy braid as that rod is really a stronger medium heavy rod than a heavy rod. If I really needed 65lb braid, I would go buy the 735C, the mag heavy rod. Using the 734C for those purposes, I would use 30lb or 40lb braid instead which will be more appropriate and cast further, be more invisible (for what it's worth) and keep the drag under 5lbs.

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You'll be just fine with that braid, don't worry about it. It'll work well in all of that heavy cover.

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No one 'needs' the strength of 65 lb braid for any reason when bass fishing.  734, 735, extra crazy super mag heavy rods will never ever be able to withstand anywhere close to that amount of force, and neither will the drag of your reel.

 

Go out to your garage and try to lift 25 lbs with a bass rod.  I bet $ you chicken out.  

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1 hour ago, LionHeart said:

No one 'needs' the strength of 65 lb braid for any reason when bass fishing.  734, 735, extra crazy super mag heavy rods will never ever be able to withstand anywhere close to that amount of force, and neither will the drag of your reel.

 

Go out to your garage and try to lift 25 lbs with a bass rod.  I bet $ you chicken out.  

Braid becomes especially susceptible to breakage when it gets frayed even just a little. Heavier braided line provides a buffer against abrasion.  I run 80 lb on my punch rig and 65lb on my other flipping rods. On rods that don't involve such high impact hookset I'll go lighter 

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2 hours ago, LionHeart said:

No one 'needs' the strength of 65 lb braid for any reason when bass fishing.  734, 735, extra crazy super mag heavy rods will never ever be able to withstand anywhere close to that amount of force, and neither will the drag of your reel.

 

Go out to your garage and try to lift 25 lbs with a bass rod.  I bet $ you chicken out.  

Very true but the 65 lb doesn't dig into the spool like the lighter braids. I've snapped of multiple lures on 50 lb before I figured that out.

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You also need heavy braid to throw heavy lures.  We don't need 80 or 100lb test to land a musky, but lighter braid can snap from the shock of casting lures 2-16oz

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