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No zero adjuster? Dealbreaker. LoL! Not.

14 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Daiwa’s in a race with Lews to see who can have the most models. Lol

I’m pretty sure that’s a Doyo made reel so actually it’s a Lews with a Daiwa badge on it.

15 hours ago, LonnieP said:

I’m pretty sure that’s a Doyo made reel so actually it’s a Lews with a Daiwa badge on it.

It's a Doyo so it's actually a Lew's, BPS, Cabela's, Abu Garcia, Pflueger, Daiwa, etc. :)  They all come from the same base models.  The manufacturers just get to add their slight specs to match their demand.  That's why I like in house made Daiwa and Shimano reels.

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I have a hard time paying attention to any of their new "budget" reels in that $80 dollar range when I can find a brand new Fuego CT cheaper on Ebay almost any day of the week. The magforce braking system alone makes it worth the retail price difference, and finding it at the same price basically makes their cheaper reels obsolete. 

On 5/3/2019 at 11:52 AM, Big-Bass said:

It's a Doyo so it's actually a Lew's, BPS, Cabela's, Abu Garcia, Pflueger, Daiwa, etc. :)  They all come from the same base models.  The manufacturers just get to add their slight specs to match their demand.  That's why I like in house made Daiwa and Shimano reels.

May be a dumb question but what do you mean when you say its a Doyo reel?

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1 hour ago, FoulHooked said:

May be a dumb question but what do you mean when you say its a Doyo reel?

Doyo Engineering Co, Ltd of Korea manufactures reels for a number of companies.

On 5/3/2019 at 11:52 AM, Big-Bass said:

It's a Doyo so it's actually a Lew's, BPS, Cabela's, Abu Garcia, Pflueger, Daiwa, etc. :)  They all come from the same base models.  The manufacturers just get to add their slight specs to match their demand.  That's why I like in house made Daiwa and Shimano reels.

These budget Daiwa reels are Doyo BUT apparently Daiwa is supplying the main gear. So it's got some of their parts in them. 

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On 5/2/2019 at 9:22 PM, LonnieP said:

I’m pretty sure that’s a Doyo made reel so actually it’s a Lews with a Daiwa badge on it.

This is what happens when manufacturing becomes too consolidated imo. As long as the rest of the line doesn't follow I guess.

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So it's a "Doyowa".

 

1 hour ago, d-camarena said:

If daiwa i headed in that direction im gonna go back to shimano

Ditto. Hope it stays in only the most budget minded reels from them and doesn't creep up to where the tatula CT is replaced by something like this.

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1 hour ago, d-camarena said:

If daiwa i headed in that direction im gonna go back to shimano

It'll become like buying a car (except I own many more reels than cars). Some brands altogether may be problematic, and some brands have models that are but other models that are great!

 

It's already enough work to find out which reel to buy, although I've been very happy with all of mine to date, in no small part due to input from the members of this forum.

19 hours ago, d-camarena said:

If daiwa i headed in that direction im gonna go back to shimano

I believe Daiwa is only doing this in their budget reels right now. Like the sub $90 market. 

 

I'm assuming it's at a price point where it is more cost-effective to let Doyo make these then then then doing them in house. Daiwa does say that they are providing them with their own main gears. 

I don’t have a problem with Doyo. They produce good reels at a fair price. 10+ years ago anything under $150 was crap. My biggest issue is some of these brands having 20 different baitcasting reels in their product line. It’s not needed

In my personal opinion...we are definitely seeing a consolidation of reel factories overseas  very quickly. A lot have just plain gone under due to failing to innovate and keep up. Chinese EPA have shut down or forced some consolidation recently due to poor painting venitlation/filtration and waste storage disposal. I think one the biggest reasons is the newer generations either don't want to take over the family fishing business, and the newer generation doesn't want to start any new fishing reel factories becouse they feel it will be unprofitable and hard to go up against the remaining heavy hitters. So this leaves us with the conundrum you see above with a vast majority of reels coming out of Doyo and the likes.  I think we will start to see more startups factories opening up in Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines that could pull a large chunks away from China Doyo and so forth as infrastructure improves. Especially if we see the 25% tarriff on fishing goods hit China.      

On 5/6/2019 at 10:20 AM, GReb said:

I don’t have a problem with Doyo. They produce good reels at a fair price. 10+ years ago anything under $150 was crap. My biggest issue is some of these brands having 20 different baitcasting reels in their product line. It’s not needed

I don't either. In my experiences the Lew's and Abu reels from Korea I have are nice. I just don't like Daiwa shifting that way since it can confuse people if you're not up to date on the latest news. You might think you're buying a Daiwa made by Daiwa, but unless you really do your research you won't be getting what you wanted. But then again I suppose if you really care you'll be on this site with the rest of us reading this stuff, even with no intentions to buy another reel in the next year...

Most of my reels are or have been Shimano/Daiwa but the over $100 Doyo reels are pretty good. I have a Pflueger Asaro reel and it's great. Use it to cast lightweight baits. I also have an Abu Orra inshore which is good too. 

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