First off, I'm a HUGE Abu Garcia fan.  Practically all of my rods and reels are Abu.

 

However, I recently emailed them regarding the new Veritas TE rods, asking if they were 34-40ton modulus graphite.  The advertise the modulus on all of their other rods, and it DOES matter to me.

 

Higher modulus= stiffer, which means a lighter and more sensitive blank.

 

Abu responded saying they don't make the info public for that one rod.

 

Why not?  I'm not spending several hundred dollars on new rods without knowing ALL the specs of what I'm getting for my money.

Sounds like they don't want to sell you that particular rod. 

That new Zenon is the one you should be after ?.

Veritas TE rods from Tackle Warehouse
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Offering avid anglers a rod series with increased strength and improved weight and sensitivity, the Abu Garcia Veritas PLX Tournament Casting Rods deliver impressive, tournament-caliber performance. Featuring 36-ton graphite blanks as their foundation, anglers can expect the extreme sensitivity needed to detect subtle bites and changes in their lake’s contour. The unique blanks also rely on Abu Garcia’s proprietary Powerlux 200 resin technology that increases the rods’ break strength without adding any extra materials or weight to maintain a more balanced feel.

In addition to the tournament-ready blanks, the Abu Garcia Veritas PLX Tournament Casting Rods boast innovative manufacturing technologies, such as the Robotically Optimized Casting System guide train that maximizes casting distance with lighter lures. Additionally, they utilize titanium alloy guides with ultra-light Zirconium inserts for expert line management and quiet casting performance. Molded carbon split grips are employed to give anglers a new age feel while further reducing weight and increasing sensitivity. Outfitted from base to tip with innovative and unique components and materials, the Abu Garcia Veritas PLX Tournament Casting Rods are the next evolution in tournament rods.

-36-ton graphite blanks with Powerlux 200
-Ergonomic Abu designed reel seats
-ROCS Guide train
-Titanium allow guides with ultra light Zirconium inserts
-Carbon split grips

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The normal PLX models use 30 ton in comparison to the 36 in the TE

6 hours ago, CrashVector said:

Abu responded saying they don't make the info public for that one rod.

vincit omnia veritas, oh the irony...

 

4 hours ago, KP Duty said:

That new Zenon is the one you should be after ?.

Way too expensive for me.

 

While they seem awesome in theory, I'd bet they're only a few % more sensitive than the PLX rods.

Perhaps they farm it out and don't have control over that.

They probably just don't want people comparing rods based on modulus alone.  They advertise their rods as having that 3M Powerlux resin that's supposed to strengthen and lighten their rods versus others of the same modulus, and they may be wanting customers to focus on that.  Whereas if they publish the actual modulus, the rods may be less impressive and competitive with other brands.  I have some new PLX Veritas rods, and I can attest to them being more sensitive and lighter than other 30 ton rods I've used.  

Its probably a multi modulas blank consisting of several different grades of pre-peg.

I have a couple of my rods built that way.  

12 hours ago, CrashVector said:

First off, I'm a HUGE Abu Garcia fan.  Practically all of my rods and reels are Abu.

 

However, I recently emailed them regarding the new Veritas TE rods, asking if they were 34-40ton modulus graphite.  The advertise the modulus on all of their other rods, and it DOES matter to me.

 

Higher modulus= stiffer, which means a lighter and more sensitive blank.  [stuff deleted]

Not quite that simple.  A lot depends on design intent, directionality of the carbon fibers within the layup, ratio of fiber-to-resin, etc.  High modulus graphite can be better if properly utilized.  High end bike frame manufacturers use finite element modeling to optimize frame shapes and fiber directionality.  Has the fishing industry reached this level of sophistications?

1 hour ago, QED said:

High end bike frame manufacturers use finite element modeling to optimize frame shapes and fiber directionality. 

Said the guy with the Italian bike with an English bottom bracket...   

 

8 minutes ago, Deleted account said:

Said the guy with the Italian bike with an English bottom bracket...   

C50-HM (high modulus).  One of the earliest specimens and has the Nike swoosh in Italian colors which they stopped using after they got a cease and desist letter.  But Italian bottom bracket! ?  Though they have used English threading on certain models.

22 minutes ago, QED said:

C50-HM (high modulus).  One of the earliest specimens and has the Nike swoosh in Italian colors which they stopped using after they got a cease and desist letter.  But Italian bottom bracket! ?  Though they have used English threading on certain models.

Yeah pretty much anything that isn't press fit, or some of the other nonsense coming out is now English. Uncreaking (new verb)  bbs in expensive bikes makes me a lot of $.

Unfortunately not many "Italian" bikes coming out of Italy anymore. Kinda like Malaysian Japanese reels I guess...