Ohioguy25 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I have found quite a few small mouth mid river in the deep channel behind boulders on the current seam picking off bait as it floats by. It would seem that some sort of moving bait with fast sinking capabilities would be the most effective way but I can’t really figure out which one possibly a deep crank or a heavy spinnerbait? Or if you’re in the camp that firmly believes in extreme water temps (outside of 55-70 degrees) mature fish (18”+) will not chase and must be finessed, a Ned or a tube? Seems like a slow means of covering water but if they won’t hit a crank or a flashy moving bait or even a glide than perhaps a necessary evil. The river I fish averages 4-6’ deep, 50-75 yards across. I typically float in a kayak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvsmallie Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 How deep is deep? How wide is the River? What is the current speed? Are you wading or in a boat? I think you are likely to get better answers if you can provide more specific info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohioguy25 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, wvsmallie said: How deep is deep? How wide is the River? What is the current speed? Are you wading or in a boat? I think you are likely to get better answers if you can provide more specific info. 4-6’ deep, 50-75 yards across. Floating in a kayak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvsmallie Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 10:39 AM, Ohioguy25 said: I have found quite a few small mouth mid river in the deep channel behind boulders on the current seam picking off bait as it floats by. It would seem that some sort of moving bait with fast sinking capabilities would be the most effective way but I can’t really figure out which one possibly a deep crank or a heavy spinnerbait? Or if you’re in the camp that firmly believes in extreme water temps (outside of 55-70 degrees) mature fish (18”+) will not chase and must be finessed, a Ned or a tube? Seems like a slow means of covering water but if they won’t hit a crank or a flashy moving bait or even a glide than perhaps a necessary evil. The river I fish averages 4-6’ deep, 50-75 yards across. I typically float in a kayak. It sounds like you fish a little bigger water than I typically do, but I'll take a shot. I think the crankbait and spinnerbait ideas both make sense. This might be a place to try a twin-spin, which in my experience tend to get and stay deep. I also started experimenting with small lipless cranks last year in similar situations with pretty good results. They fall fast and can be worked in a variety of ways at a variety of depths. Perhaps the most universal bait I fish is a ballhead or mushroom head jig head with trailer of your choice. You can key the weight to the depth you are looking to fish and then swap out trailers depending on your approach. A curl tailed grub can be fished at almost any speed or depth. You could drag bottom with a creature bait or craw-imitator. A little finesse worm can also work wonders. Variety and simplicity. I don't believe that fish must be finessed outside of 55-70 degrees. If I had to go low and slow, ned rigs and tubes would be at the top of my list as would a finesse jig with a craw trailer. I'd love to hear what you end up trying and how it works for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reel Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Drop shot - heavy weight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter63 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Rage Craw t rigged light weight. Let the current pull it right to em. Or a Rebel crawdad crankbait Float it by and run to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVE64 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 10:39 AM, Ohioguy25 said: I have found quite a few small mouth mid river in the deep channel behind boulders on the current seam picking off bait as it floats by. It would seem that some sort of moving bait with fast sinking capabilities would be the most effective way but I can’t really figure out which one possibly a deep crank or a heavy spinnerbait? Or if you’re in the camp that firmly believes in extreme water temps (outside of 55-70 degrees) mature fish (18”+) will not chase and must be finessed, a Ned or a tube? Seems like a slow means of covering water but if they won’t hit a crank or a flashy moving bait or even a glide than perhaps a necessary evil. The river I fish averages 4-6’ deep, 50-75 yards across. I typically float in a kayak. I throw a hand tied 1/0 stinger hook covered in fanciful fur, feathers and flash. I add a pinch on bullet wt of the correct wt and I float that thru the seams and drift it into pools. Takes patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGF Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Sounds like the perfect time for a ned or my splitshot finesse worm...and that how I was catching them last Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Spankey Posted July 8, 2023 Super User Share Posted July 8, 2023 I’m pretty sure I’m fishing a river much different than yours. But I would be throwing what I typically throw everywhere on the river. Many ways to fish a spot and not be wrong. Most likely no way is a wrong way. Hit it with all your favorite/confidence baits. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassBass Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I would suggest a selection of crankbaits. Maybe some 4-6 ft. Divers. Boat positioning might be hard in a yak, may need multiple drifts on the same target. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdnoble84 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Spinnerbait is a great place to start in summer. I like to start reaction generally. If nothing is going on that try an x rap and a dt6. Paddle tails, grubs. I dont consider 4-6ft very deep. It deepends more on clarity and speed. If its a riffle im burning a 3/8 to half oz bait with chart/ white blades. If its just heavier current im using pretty much everything in my arsenal. Not really something i use alot but you might try a wopper plopper. Jigs with a curlytail have always been deadly for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVE64 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1/4 oz GP tube with a rattle. Also a black tube with a rattle. Pumped in the deepest channel or near a ridgeline. Money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohioguy25 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 19 hours ago, PaulVE64 said: 1/4 oz GP tube with a rattle. Also a black tube with a rattle. Pumped in the deepest channel or near a ridgeline. Money. Link me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted September 6, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2023 Last night I was just slow rolling a paddle tail and they were eating it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVE64 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 21 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said: Link me? My local tackle shop makes them. I'm not brand loyal and I have a full set of coptic markers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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