I'm really loving how the owner flashy swimmer looks and the fact that there's an option for a gold blade, as well as the price compared to other brands...

The one thing I don't like is that there's no 4/0 option. 

Would a 4-1/4" ez swimmer pair well with the 5/0 option?

I don't want to use a 5" swimbait as I'm still gaining confidence in these sizes. I'm taking a leap of faith by using a 4-1/4" as it is 😆

1/4 oz Flashy Swimmer works good with 4.8 Fat Impact,

Tom

3 hours ago, WRB said:

1/4 oz Flashy Swimmer works good with 4.8 Fat Impact,

Tom

I'm not ready to use that size swimbait and I've doing research on the actions of different swimbaits as well as the colors. 

I like the action and color options of the gambler ez swimmer over the keitech.

I appreciate the recommendation though! I'd just like to know if anyas tried what I'm doing and knows if the 4-1/4" ez swimmer will work on that size underspin by owner

If the hook doesn’t go past the seam in the gambler the action should be fine. You can screw a little less into the nose so the hook point is further up the bait. I have lots of gamblers but not in 4.25”. Sorry can’t test it out for you. 
 

scott

14 minutes ago, softwateronly said:

If the hook doesn’t go past the seam in the gambler the action should be fine. You can screw a little less into the nose so the hook point is further up the bait. I have lots of gamblers but not in 4.25”. Sorry can’t test it out for you. 
 

scott

Good to know!

I guess I'll just have to spend some money then and find out! Loll. Don't know when I'll get to getting it, but I'll be sure to report back here when I do...

Until then, I will say that this thread is open for anyone with experience on the matter! Lol

5 minutes ago, Rocky998 said:

Good to know!

I guess I'll just have to spend some money then and find out! Loll. Don't know when I'll get to getting it, but I'll be sure to report back here when I do...

Until then, I will say that this thread is open for anyone with experience on the matter! Lol

What's wrong with using the 3/0?  Do you have a pic of it rigged?  I'm sure the very experienced here can give a best guess if there's enough room for a 5/0.

 

scott

4 minutes ago, softwateronly said:

What's wrong with using the 3/0?  Do you have a pic of it rigged?  I'm sure the very experienced here can give a best guess if there's enough room for a 5/0.

 

scott

I don't have the underspin or the swimbait yet. I'm just wondering before I go and spend money lol.

 

I'm also getting a size 3/0, so I can try that. I thought about using the 3/0 size before, but I thought that would lead to a lot of short strikes.

 

Hopefully someone has put the size 5/0 together with the swimbait before and knows!

The 3/0 will work, the 5/0 will be right on the edge at best.  Bass short strike much less frequently than fisherman talk about it.  They use a giant vacuum/crusher for a feeding strategy, they don't nibble, taste, and tear things.

 

scott

 

3/0

5/0

3 hours ago, softwateronly said:

The 3/0 will work, the 5/0 will be right on the edge at best.  Bass short strike much less frequently than fisherman talk about it.  They use a giant vacuum/crusher for a feeding strategy, they don't nibble, taste, and tear things.

 

scott

 

This is good to know!! Thanks!

 

3 hours ago, Peacedivision said:

3/0

5/0

This is an AMAZING visual! Thank you so much for showing me!

Looks like it will be perfect on the 5/0!

I'd prefer a 4"+ swimbait on a 5/0 screw lock EWG because you'll tear apart far less swimbaits.  I am not a big fan of small hooks for soft plastic baits that I'm going to be chucking and winding constantly.  They tend to tear the plastic up from casting + weight of the plastic itself.

3 hours ago, Pat Brown said:

I'd prefer a 4"+ swimbait on a 5/0 screw lock EWG because you'll tear apart far less swimbaits.  I am not a big fan of small hooks for soft plastic baits that I'm going to be chucking and winding constantly.  They tend to tear the plastic up from casting + weight of the plastic itself.

This is great to hear! Thank you!

It's a Rage Swimmer 

Here are the hook sizes Keitech advises for optimum bait action.

 

I'm sure other manufacturers have recommendations.

 

2.8" - 1/0

3.3" - 1/0

3.8" - 2/0

4.3" - 3/0

4.8" - 3/0 or 4/0 

5.8" - 6/0

6.8" - 8/0

7.8" - 10/0 or 12/0

5/0 works for me...

The gambler is kinda special because it has a crease in the middle that helps with the tail mouvement but on a more conventional bait, like a Rhythm Wave, a long hook takes away some of the mouvement.  

On 8/31/2024 at 4:44 PM, Rocky998 said:

I don't have the underspin or the swimbait yet. I'm just wondering before I go and spend money lol.

Just a suggestion. Order a pack of Owner CPS (L) too. I swap out the stock medium CPSs every time if the plastic will accommodate the large. The larges rarely core-out the plastic after a bite where the mediums will more often.

Owner CPS Centering Pin Spring | Tackle Warehouse

 

10 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

5/0 works for me...

That size looks perfect then! Thanks for the visual!

 

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Just a suggestion. Order a pack of Owner CPS (L) too. I swap out the stock medium CPSs every time if the plastic will accommodate the large. The larges rarely core-out the plastic after a bite where the mediums will more often.

Owner CPS Centering Pin Spring | Tackle Warehouse

 

Would these also work?

https://discounttackle.com/products/vmc-spring-baitkeeper?_pos=14&_sid=cecd04781&_ss=r

1 minute ago, Rocky998 said:

Would these also work?

https://discounttackle.com/products/vmc-spring-baitkeeper?_pos=14&_sid=cecd04781&_ss=r

Meh in comparison to the Owner CPS. I swap them off of VMC Drop Dead hooks for the Owner's.

Florida guy here, Florida is the home of Gambler. Find the Gambler Duz It  hook.

Blade in the back and changeable. Built for their baits

Pete

2 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Meh in comparison to the Owner CPS. I swap them off of VMC Drop Dead hooks for the Owner's.

I might just use the stock then.

Im getting all my stuff from a site other than TW and that's not one of their products, although I really appreciate the advice! Thanks! I might get some at another time.

1 hour ago, little giant said:

Florida guy here, Florida is the home of Gambler. Find the Gambler Duz It  hook.

Blade in the back and changeable. Built for their baits

Pete

I looked at it and I don't really like it compared to the Owner. Thank you though!

5/0 will work. 3/0 is a better fit though. 

 

+1 for the post above suggesting to change out the CPS spring for one size larger.