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For an all-purpose spinning reel (tubes, grubs, senkos, flukes, topwaters) does 34 ipt or 37 ipt make any practical difference actually fishing on the water?

 

Used for bass fishing in creeks and rivers.

Thanks

For me, yes. Use Daiwa Crossfire 2500 Spinning Reel with IPT 30 and Penn Wrath 2500 IPT 33. Brings in 8 pounds test when lure hits the water quickly. Move the lure quickly thru various scenarios. Don't use in heavy cover and mostly shallow water presentations. Both have excellent drag. 

Good Fishing 

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There's no significant difference in those two numbers.  

All USM Shimano and Daiwa reels sent to US are high- or super-high geared - 6-geared.  

 

In my winter XUL salt fishing - big fish sipping tiny winter bait with no aggression - I get a lot more feel (and fish) from lower-geared small-frame.  

Same Shimano reel, 15 models in JDM offering different gearing (22 to 40 ipt) and spool depth, vs. 5 models, all HG or XG, exported to USM.  

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I'll also add, where I'm using a long float/dropper rig,  I like my SHG Stradic (same as USM FL) to straighten all that line out in a hurry.  

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I've come to the position that it really makes no practical difference on a spinning rod and if anything a slower rate might even be better for me.  I am only using spinning rods for finesse techniques (ned, light worms, jighead minnow, etc).  For the most part, all stuff that the slower you fish it the better.  A jighead minnow might be the exception, not for the fishing part of it but for the 'crap I missed my cast and have to reel in quickly' part of it.  Even then, you're only talking about 60' of line out so at 3' or so per turn of that reel, that's only 20 quick turns to be back at the boat.  If it is 19, 20, or 21 turns that doesn't matter.

9 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

I've come to the position that it really makes no practical difference on a spinning rod and if anything a slower rate might even be better for me.  I am only using spinning rods for finesse techniques (ned, light worms, jighead minnow, etc).  For the most part, all stuff that the slower you fish it the better.  A jighead minnow might be the exception, not for the fishing part of it but for the 'crap I missed my cast and have to reel in quickly' part of it.  Even then, you're only talking about 60' of line out so at 3' or so per turn of that reel, that's only 20 quick turns to be back at the boat.  If it is 19, 20, or 21 turns that doesn't matter.

 

I was going to post the same thing.  I couldn't even tell you what the gear ratios are for my spinning reels.  

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15 minutes ago, Junk Fisherman said:

 

I was going to post the same thing.  I couldn't even tell you what the gear ratios are for my spinning reels.  

I keep track of mine just so I know - but I specifically purchased the JDM versions that range from 26ipt to 29ipt. Above that, IMO is just ridiculous...and what's with the massive capacity of the spools now-days too? There is no need for a spool that holds 500yds of 6# test for freshwater fishing.

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

I keep track of mine just so I know - but I specifically purchased the JDM versions that range from 26ipt to 29ipt. Above that, IMO is just ridiculous...and what's with the massive capacity of the spools now-days too? There is no need for a spool that holds 500yds of 6# test for freshwater fishing.

Spool capacity is different- I don't want to have a reel with 240 yard capacity of 8 lb line.  I also look at the weight of the reel as well.  Aren't most spinning reels in the 5.5 range for gear ratio?

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8 minutes ago, Junk Fisherman said:

Aren't most spinning reels in the 5.5 range for gear ratio?

The JDM Miravels I got are around 5.0:1 . The USDM 'HG' models are 6.2:1 and run as high as 35.8ipt for the 3000 model....that's faster than my 'ultra speed' punching reel.

Does the amount of line on the spool affect IPT on spinning reels the same as it does on bait casters? 

 

If no, then I'd say a higher geared or higher IPT should help you keep up with a bigger fish as it races downstream towards you. But it probably wouldn't matter much between the two IPT's you posted.

 

If yes, then it probably doesn't matter.

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2 minutes ago, Kev-mo said:

Does the amount of line on the spool affect IPT on spinning reels the same as it does on bait casters? 

Yep - for the same reason....more you're into the spool, the less line you pick up per handle turn.

 

Course at the ranges you're usually casting spinning rigs, it's not THAT much of a difference. Add to the fact that spinning spools are base-line wider, so the drop in IPT is less than that of casting reels.

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2 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

There's no significant difference in those two numbers.  

All USM Shimano and Daiwa reels sent to US are high- or super-high geared - 6-geared.  

 

In my winter XUL salt fishing - big fish sipping tiny winter bait with no aggression - I get a lot more feel (and fish) from lower-geared small-frame.  

Same Shimano reel, 15 models in JDM offering different gearing (22 to 40 ipt) and spool depth, vs. 5 models, all HG or SHG, exported to USM.  

image.png.69e2cbfa28cc7f9730f48ee0bb9326f2.png

 

I'll also add, where I'm using a long float/dropper rig,  I like my SHG Stradic (same as USM FL) to straighten all that line out in a hurry.  

This OP. I use a 7’ two piece Edge rod in Light/Fast with a Shimano Vanford 2500S.. gear ratio 5.3:1 as seen in chart above. In your case, No, 2” won’t matter in the least. Slow speed is useful, high speed is useful. All of my rods and spinning reels are purpose driven. I have several Shimano reels in FL & FM they’re all high speed excepting the Vanford. 

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For the most part, I like a slower retrieve in a spinning reel,  with the exception of wacky rigged senkos. I fish a lot of paddle tail swimbaits, drop shot baits and smaller finesse stuff. The slower retrieve reels seem to fit my style of fishing better.

I recently bought a new 3000 sized spinning reel. I was torn between a 5 vs 6 gear ratio.

 

When I tried both at the store, the 5 speed was much smoother. Could be a number of factors beyond gear ratio, but either way 32" vs 36" is not enough to keep me up at night.

 

I didn't get the 3000 for line capacity either, I wanted the larger diameter spool and T shape handle. In fact if it came in a shallow spool, I would have gotten that. But I will probably never see the 70% of backing anyways. 

I use spinning reels for finesse fishing with no more than 8 lb line, usually 6 and buy them for weight and speed; lighter and faster.  The less time to bring a worm to the boat after it's out of the strike zone the more casts you can do.

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