I was browsing the Daiwa site and saw the new Tatula X coming out in July, which looks to be a replacement for Tatula CT. When I compared it to the Tatula TW 100, it looks like it has all of the same tech as the TW 100 except for the body design (more like the SV TW103) and a deeper spool, like the Elites. Anybody in the know about this reel? I am wondering if it might be a cheeper option than the Tatula TW 100, which I like quite a bit. https://daiwa.us/collections/baitcasting-reels/products/25-tatulxa-tw-100

Interesting.  Thats a last get Tatula 100.  I thought they were killing off that platform but it looks like they are going to keep it along side the new one.  I wonder if we'll get a cheaper Fuego too or if they won't bother?  

I saw they also have the Daiwa Aird 80 Casting Reel for $99 coming out. 

 

Three certainties in life: Death, Taxes, and Tatulas.

2 hours ago, Metallion said:

I saw they also have the Daiwa Aird 80 Casting Reel for $99 coming out. 

 

Just saw that for pre-order at tackle Wharehouse.

 

Looks nice but it says it’s a composite frame. That’s pretty lame for a $100 reel. 

14 minutes ago, JaxBasser said:

Just saw that for pre-order at tackle Wharehouse.

 

Looks nice but it says it’s a composite frame. That’s pretty lame for a $100 reel. 

I'd stick with a CA-80 for $10 more. MagForce (not Z or LC) brakes, aluminum frame, 80 size spool. I have one and it's really a good reel for the price.

1 hour ago, JaxBasser said:

Looks nice but it says it’s a composite frame. That’s pretty lame for a $100 reel.

Seems like aluminum framed reels from the major players will start at $130 going forward.

I am actually pretty excited about the Tatula X. $150 and it looks like it has all the features of the Tatula TW 100. It would be nice to get 100 performance in a larger 150 size spool and not have to pay $200 for it. I guess I will have to wait for the specs to see how they differ other than spool and frame.

Maybe this is why Scheels is running the CT for a hundred bucks.  

7 hours ago, Metallion said:

I am actually pretty excited about the Tatula X. $150 and it looks like it has all the features of the Tatula TW 100. It would be nice to get 100 performance in a larger 150 size spool and not have to pay $200 for it. I guess I will have to wait for the specs to see how they differ other than spool and frame.

It looks like it has a 32mm spool like the Tatula SV so its capacity  should be well below a Tatula 150 with its old wide spool 34mm or current gen narrow 36mm spool.  Never trust the stated line capacities of reels.  They are always made up garbage numbers.  

Maybe it does have a deeper 34mm spool.  The TW pics seem to suggest a 34mm spool.  This would give the reel the similar capacity to the Tatula 100 but maybe a bit more with the smaller arbor.  It looks like it will have similar capacity to the deep 34mm SV spool found in the Coastal 150 SV and Tatula 150 SV.

3 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

It looks like it has a 32mm spool like the Tatula SV so its capacity  should be well below a Tatula 150 with its old wide spool 34mm or current gen narrow 36mm spool.  Never trust the stated line capacities of reels.  They are always made up garbage numbers.  

I wonder if this is even the right reel pictured on Daiwa US's site?  That pic clearly shows a smaller diameter spool (note the flat spot area in the frame above the spool rim.  You see this with reels designed for a bigger spool are fitted with a smaller one).  Also the presence of the line on the middle of the spool you only see with SV spools indicates this is not the same reel that is on TW.  This looks like a SV version of the reel.  I'm guessing a non Boost SV variant will be released along side this new Tatula at some point maybe at $199 MSRP.

On 7/8/2025 at 11:56 PM, Metallion said:

I am actually pretty excited about the Tatula X. $150 and it looks like it has all the features of the Tatula TW 100.

Not even close imo, other than getting the magforce z brakes it seems no other features trickled down like the hyperdrive gearing or the metal housing, and why would they, something has to give to differentiate the various price points. It's probably still a nice little reel, buy it and be happy, or buy a jdm 100 for a bit less $ and be even happier.

33 minutes ago, Bass Rutten said:

Not even close imo, other than getting the magforce z brakes it seems no other features trickled down like the hyperdrive gearing or the metal housing, and why would they, something has to give to differentiate the various price points. It's probably still a nice little reel, buy it and be happy, or buy a jdm 100 for a bit less $ and be even happier.

Both the Magforce Z and SV versions have hyperdrive gears according to the "hyperdrive" written on the handle side plate.  

On 7/8/2025 at 6:45 PM, JaxBasser said:

Just saw that for pre-order at tackle Wharehouse.

 

Looks nice but it says it’s a composite frame. That’s pretty lame for a $100 reel. 

That’s what they said about Glock pistols too.

9 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

Not even close imo, other than getting the magforce z brakes it seems no other features trickled down like the hyperdrive gearing or the metal housing, and why would they, something has to give to differentiate the various price points. It's probably still a nice little reel, buy it and be happy, or buy a jdm 100 for a bit less $ and be even happier.

From TW:

Overview

Combining entry-level affordability with Daiwa’s peak engineering excellence, the Daiwa Tatula X Casting Reel leverages HYPERDRIVE Design to deliver peak performance for a wide range of fishing applications. Built with Hyper Armed Housing to provide enhanced rigidity, the Tatula X Casting Reel operates with extreme smoothness under pressure thanks to the updated HYPERDRIVE gearing system, which has bigger and stronger gear teeth to extend gear life.

Daiwa Tatula X Casting Reel | Tackle Warehouse

Well I stand corrected. The LC designation makes it kind of a poor man's tat elite I guess? Pulled from a google AI search if anyone's interested:

 

The Daiwa Tatula X TW 100 features an LC Concept Magforce-Z Spool. 

Here's a breakdown of what that means:

• Magforce-Z: This is Daiwa's magnetic braking system. It uses a moveable inductor rotor on the spool that adjusts braking pressure based on the spool's speed. As you cast, the rotor extends into the magnetic field to prevent backlash at high speeds. As the spool slows down, the rotor retracts to reduce braking and maximize casting distance.
• LC Concept: This signifies "Long Cast" and implies the spool and braking system are optimized to achieve maximum casting distance.
• Spool: The Tatula X TW 100 has a 34mm aluminum spool which is lightweight, contributing to easier casting and efficient braking. The Tatula 80 features an even lighter, smaller (32mm) spool, particularly beneficial for casting lighter, less aerodynamic lures. 

In essence, the Daiwa Tatula X's LC Concept Magforce-Z Spool combines a lightweight, precisely engineered spool with an intelligently adjusting magnetic braking system to maximize casting distance and minimize backlash for a variety of lures. 

5 hours ago, F14A-B said:

That’s what they said about Glock pistols too.

Completely different, and It’s not like it’s anything new. It’s  just something that has been reserved to budget reels because it has an actual downside in reels (flex under pressure). There is no benefit like with polymer framed pistols, it’s a straight downgrade and a cost cutting measure. The $100 price point is just traditionally where you see aluminum frames instead of polymer, so it’s disappointing here. 

2 hours ago, JaxBasser said:

Completely different, and It’s not like it’s anything new. It’s  just something that has been reserved to budget reels because it has an actual downside in reels (flex under pressure). There is no benefit like with polymer framed pistols, it’s a straight downgrade and a cost cutting measure. The $100 price point is just traditionally where you see aluminum frames instead of polymer, so it’s disappointing here. 

I don’t believe Daiwa is setting itself up for failure here. Carbon products have been replacing aluminum in many things and people/users all claim the same downsides with a change of material such as carbon aircraft, bike frames, bike components,bike rims fiberglass replaced steel in rods then graphite rods steadily replaced glass.. 

 

Who knows with this reel until it hits the streets, I don’t have these issues with my CI4+ reels, my Vanford reels and they’re all carbon. Once upon a time I dumped Daiwa over the Twing, turns out Daiwa got it right and I’m back to using predominantly Daiwa baitcasters now. (All Shimano spinning though) we will see in a little while if it’s a bad material choice as you imply or if Daiwa has another surprise for us. 

10 hours ago, F14A-B said:

I don’t believe Daiwa is setting itself up for failure here. Carbon products have been replacing aluminum in many things and people/users all claim the same downsides with a change of material such as carbon aircraft, bike frames, bike components,bike rims fiberglass replaced steel in rods then graphite rods steadily replaced glass.. 

 

Who knows with this reel until it hits the streets, I don’t have these issues with my CI4+ reels, my Vanford reels and they’re all carbon. Once upon a time I dumped Daiwa over the Twing, turns out Daiwa got it right and I’m back to using predominantly Daiwa baitcasters now. (All Shimano spinning though) we will see in a little while if it’s a bad material choice as you imply or if Daiwa has another surprise for us. 

"Graphite" or "carbon" reels are actually plastic.  They are made from graphite powder reinforced polymer and everyone conveniently omits polymer part.  The video below tests various cast carbon methods including a carbon fiber reinforced polymer, Onyx, that is identical to what "carbon fiber" fishing reels are made from.  Keep in mind this video shows cast carbon which is inferior to carbon fiber construction using layers of carbon cloth sandwiched into a form which is what we associate with things like carbon fiber fishing rods, reel handles, bike frames ect.

 

A simple analog using wood would be:

Plywood = layers of carbon fiber cloth 

Chip board = cast carbon fiber 

MDF = carbon fiber reinforced polymer 

 

5 minutes ago, Bigbox99 said:

"Graphite" or "carbon" reels are actually plastic.  They are made from graphite powder reinforced polymer and everyone conveniently omits polymer part.  The video below tests various cast carbon methods including a carbon fiber reinforced polymer, Onyx, that is identical to what "carbon fiber" fishing reels are made from.  Keep in mind this video shows cast carbon which is inferior to carbon fiber construction using layers of carbon cloth sandwiched into a form.  

 

A simple analog using wood would be:

Plywood = layers of carbon fiber cloth 

Chip board = cast carbon fiber 

MDF = carbon fiber reinforced polymer 

 

Yes. I made mention of polymer via my Glock pistol statement earlier in this thread.. I’d rather assume everyone knows that Glock frames and stock sights are a polymer material. 
 

My longest serving and best serving reel was a circa 80’s Quantum baitcaster, it was graphite framed w graphite side plates and had brass gears and pinion. Magnetic cast control. I stuck tarpon, rays, sand sharks, bluefish, and largemouth bass to 11.2 pounds. It never broke, flexed or caused excessive wear on a gear set. The reel was also made in South Korea. As far as the Tatula reel is concerned, I’ll wait till it hits the streets and see if Daiwa has decided to sink one of its flagship lines of baitcasting reel or if they have a surprise for us. 
 

Who knows, the naysayers might be right about Daiwa trying to kill off the brand. 

20 minutes ago, F14A-B said:

As far as the Tatula reel is concerned, I’ll wait till it hits the streets and see if Daiwa has decided to sink one of its flagship lines of baitcasting reel or if they have a surprise for us. 

It's unlikely that the Tatula X uses a plastic frame. First, they're claiming a Hyper-armed housing. Second, they clearly state on their Doyo builds like the new Aird and older CC baitcasters that they're composite frames. Also, the TW pics show the sideplate being secured with Daiwa's odd slotted screw head which indicates machine threads into the frame. While there's an outside chance that they're pulling a fast one by embedding machine screw inserts into a plastic frame which allows for machine screws....I doubt it.

In the spirit of blue Tatulas its worth adding that there is a PE special last gen Tatula 100 reel also with hyperdrive gears for $200.  The Saltist 100 PE Special.  When I saw this in 2023 I assumed the hyperdrive gears were referencing the Saltist 80 SV but after seeing this Tatula X with them I checked back on the Saltist 100 PE Special and it has the same hyperdrive marking on the handle side plate.

 

There is also the 80 SV, 150 and 300 Saltist PE Special if anyone is interested.

From the interview video I watched of the Daiwa reps, it sounds like it is a Tatula 100 with a different spool and a little different frame.

Looks like a last gen Tatula 100 with hyperdrive gears and blue paint.  They did this with the 16 Tatula CT in 2020 and kept it in production along side the Tatula 100 with an update of the new style thin knobs and blue accents with new paint.  

 

There looks like there will be two Tatula Xs with a 100 and an SV.  The reel on Daiwa US is not the same as what is on TW.  The reel on Daiwa US is clearly an SV reel and features what looks like a darker blue paint finish and SV spool.  This is either an unreleased SV version that Daiwa US has leaked through incompetence or a prototype using an SV spool that didn't make it into production and they went with the deeper spool 100 instead.  Only time will tell.

These two reels are not the same.  Notice how much smaller the spool diameter is on the darker reel and the groove or line on the side of the spool.  This is something you see on SV spool.  

For what it's worth, the TW video about it they said it's more forgiving than a regular 100 on the cast. I don't exactly know what that means technically, but they were yakking with a Daiwa project manager about it.