Get a Revo ..and if u dont like it ill allow you to send it to me free of charge ill even pay shipping cost

RW,

you should get yourself a Revo and do your own "time" test. I'm betting you'd switch within a week. Cast a Revo for a day and it's all over bud. I'm not kidding. Until this year I was Shimano and Daiwa since about 1972. I slipped and bought a Garcia Ultra Mag in the 80's and swore I'd never buy another Garcia reel again. I'm not sure who it actually was here that convinced me to try the Revo but I'm glad they did, very glad indeed. Does Shimano pay for your house or someth8ing? Why the "pledge of Allegiance" to Shimano?

Yup, I still have some Shimano reels, and some Daiwa....and I always will. But man, you need to EXPERIENCE the Revo on your own terms. I got $20 says you'll buy your 2nd one inside of a month.

My last Rambler was a Gremlin. My last Ford was a 1976 Granada. My last Jeep was the last, full size, Grand Wagoneer. I owned two Garcia, back to back...Next time I buy an Abu Garcia is when it comes with my new Ford.

I have been fishing Shimano reels since 1997. Every reel I have owned is in use today and performs as well or better than the day it came out of the box. I am VERY loyal to things that work and companies that care about their customers. Abu Garcia, i.e. Berkley & Company, does NOT meet that criteria. Almost every product that I have ever fished that was produced by Berkley was mediocre or worse. I don't do business with companies I don't trust.

High quality, consistancy and dependable equipment from a company that has established a reputation for customer satisfaction over a period of decades is important to me. So yes, I do pledge allegiance to Shimano, they have treated me AND everyone I know, very well.

Perhaps you should reconsider your priorities.

If Abu Garcia has been consistent about anything over the years, it's been durability. Abu has offered very durable, if weird, reels for as long as they've been in business.

As RW said, Abu seemed to be lost in the past 20 years. Abu turned out durable products. But their offerings were sometimes bizarre. Abu became very good at providing products that answered needs nobody had - in colors that would make a pimp blush.

Their stamina drag reels were built well, but the drag on the spool shroud was, was, well.. what were they thinking? (Discontinued)

Their D5 and D6s reels were well made and cast well, but looked like coke cans with a plastic end sitting on the rod. (Discontinued)

I never understood this offering.  $400+ for the world's ugliest reel.  

The Torno was about as inspiring as mushroom. (Discontinued)

Use this one while wearing a colored floor length fur coat and fuzzy hat.

Granted, Abu had European customers to satisfy, and their needs and wants may have been different than American's. Nevertheless, they put products out there that, while built well, looked funny and didn't do well. IMO, their timeless Ambassadeurs kept them alive in the American market.

For some reason, all that has changed. Abu has gotten their act together. They've dropped their silly looking products and opted for tradition. Somebody at Abu got this company back on track. They've kept their Ambassadeur line and brought back some that should have never been dropped. They now offer refreshingly traditional spinning and LP baitcasters that maintain Abu's traditions of durability.

Shimano makes a fine reel. But IMO the their BCs simply don't compare to the new Revos. I've sold all my Shimanos, and given one away, and replaced them all with Abus. IMO, Abu has surpassed Shimano in quality and refinement. For me, Abu's customer service has been perfect. I couldn't be more plased with my Abus.

Nice, that was like a chronological look at bad ideas in reel making history. I have a diawa, a shimano, and recently handled the Okuma Aveon. Of the three, the Aveon has the least backplay and is an impressive offering. I bought one and would say that it's the better of my spinning reels.

p.s. I'm in the revo camp as well, best reels I own hands down. They even sent me a decal for my boat on request - no charge.

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Perhaps you should reconsider your priorities.

I'll run through them with my people on Monday.    

Since 1997 huh?  Geez, Thats a long time.  Thats empowering is what it is.  I fully understand now, thanks for clearing that up.

I bought another Shimano rod today, do I get a hug?  Probably not, bought another Revo too. :-/

I should have never brought it up  >

ALL of my baitcasters are Shimano, and ALL of my spinning reels are Daiwa, I wouldn't have it any other way

Yo Forbizzle fo shizzle,

except you got it backwards.

All of my baitcasters are Daiwa and all of my coffee grinders, er I mean spinning reels are shimano.

I guess that's what happens when you live on LEFT coast  

(except my steez spinning, but I thought my post was so cool I couldn't mess with it)  

Shimano is a great reel. My only problem with them is that they just don't fit my hand. So I sold mine.  I use Daiwa and Abu Revos for baitcasting setups. For my spinning reels I love Okuma. I have 2 Inspiras, 1 Aveon, and 1 Epixor.

Pass the popcorn.

Jake

PS -

Revophiles and others................Kindly start a new thread.

This one is called "Shimano or Daiwa"?.............

Daiwa. I kinda phased out other brand. I still have a Symetre,a Quantum, a Pinnacle, a Prodigy and a BPS Extreme. When these die, it will be all Daiwa.

Shimanos are good reels, but Daiwas feel smoother to me.

Pass the popcorn.

Jake

lol, what is this daiwa and shimano you speak of?

I bought another Shimano rod today, do I get a hug? Probably not, bought another Revo too. :-/

Well, it seems to me that everyone has been reasonably civil on this thread.

I boils down to 1) Personal preference; 2) Hard headed (Not me! :); 3) Paying attention to technical innovation and improvents within brand lines.

Isn't it great to have so many choices!

8-)

p.s. Jeff H, your points were well made and "priorities" in good order, I should not have responded so aggressively. I hope everyone enjoys the equipment they use.

Given equal quality/pricing levels both reel brands are simply the best.  It is like a pretty blonde vs. a pretty brunette vs. a pretty redhead.  All of them are great, although each would have their own preferences.  I have some of each, from top to bottom pricing wise.  For me my PREFERENCE would be Shimano, Shimano, Shimano.  This is true especially in the quality, durability and consistency departments.