I was in a store today and found a diawa steez spinning rod model stz 681mlfsa for 309.00 new , i think i'm going to buy it but the question i have is that before i really got into using good gear i was an ugly stik man and i remember the foam grip getting all distorted after a while , is that going to happen w/the steez handle ?

IMO, three words come to mind when i think "Steez".... Waste Of Money! Buy a St. Croix. For 1/2 the price of a steez, you can own a equal or superior product (IMO)

u should have to worry about that because the steez rods are made of different material than the EVA foam that comes with the ugly stick. Its more durable and alot lighter too!

IMO, three words come to mind when i think "Steez".... Waste Of Money! Buy a St. Croix. For 1/2 the price of a steez, you can own a equal or superior product (IMO)

Are you for real are you just talking out of your butt? Steez is lighter than ANY st croix of comparable action/ power much more detail beautifully crafted sensitive rods and 310 is a steal.

Like i said, in my opinion (IMO). And yes, i'm for real. $310 may be a steal for that rod, but i don't see the point in spending THAT much on ONE rod, unless you could g. The weight cant be by more then an once or two, annd the bass dont care how beautiful your spinning rod, OR how much you paid for it. Why buy one rod when you can buy 2 of an, (read these next three words carefully) in my opinion, equal quality rod from st. croix, or other top name brand. But then again, i've only been fishing for 15 years, what do i know?

Like i said, in my opinion (IMO). And yes, i'm for real. $310 may be a steal for that rod, but i don't see the point in spending THAT much on ONE rod, unless you could g. The weight cant be by more then an once or two, annd the bass dont care how beautiful your spinning rod, OR how much you paid for it. Why buy one rod when you can buy 2 of an, (read these next three words carefully) in my opinion, equal quality rod from st. croix, or other top name brand. But then again, i've only been fishing for 15 years, what do i know?

and i assume you buy your own gear...................

Doesn't everyone? Look, I have no sponsors, if that is what you're hinting at. I own rods from Berkley, Quantum, Quarrow, Shimano, and St. Croix. All I'm saying is that I don't think ANY rod is worth that much money, I dont care how light or beautiful it is. Fishing is a confidence game, so if throwing a $310 STEEZ is gonna make you more confident, then by all means. But the rod doesn't make you a better fisherman, it is merely an extention of your own two hands. So if you want to go and spend $310+ dollars on a rod, go for it... I just think that you can get more bang for your buck elsewhere.

^ were you talking to me or the other guy, anyways an avid is not the same quality of a steez an that all i have to say if you have the 310$ go for it!

I just think that you can get more bang for your buck elsewhere.

I can agree with that no doubt, but the way you put it in your first post made is seem like a rod half the price was just as good if not better?

Using that logic, why spend $300 on two St. Croix rods when you can buy  10 Ugly Sticks?  

Thats what i said, exactly, followed by, "In my opinion..." Look, you can disagree with me if you want, well and good. Like i said, its my opinion. Im not saying that the Steez is a bad or lower quality rod. But its just that, a rod. I dont think it would help me catch more fish. I feel that i can do better with a lower priced rod. Its not worth the money. And thats my opinion. Chaddy, remember this: Its not the rod that defines the fisherman, its the fisherman that defines the fisherman.

I admit, I would buy it. I figure, it's going to last you the rest of your life, so you'll definitely get your moneys worth in the long run. For most gear I am a cheapskate, but not when it comes to rods. I like to buy the absolute best I can afford. Bait monkey says go for it ;D

lol, hey, if you are more confident in ugly sticks, then go ahead... Ill stick with my St.'s.

I was in a store today and found a diawa steez spinning rod model stz 681mlfsa for 309.00 new , i think i'm going to buy it but the question i have is that before i really got into using good gear i was an ugly stik man and i remember the foam grip getting all distorted after a while , is that going to happen w/the steez handle ?

Bottom line-

Get what YOU want with the amount of money YOU want to spend. There are no rules, so get what makes you happiest!  

Couldnt agree more, it all comes down to confidence.

Using a Steez might not catch you more fish, but I guarantee that when you do catch a fish, it will be more pleasurable than catching a fish with an Avid   And that's not at all saying that Avids are not darn good rods.

Thats what i said, exactly, followed by, "In my opinion..." Look, you can disagree with me if you want, well and good. Like i said, its my opinion. Im not saying that the Steez is a bad or lower quality rod. But its just that, a rod. I dont think it would help me catch more fish. I feel that i can do better with a lower priced rod. Its not worth the money. And thats my opinion. Chaddy, remember this: Its not the rod that defines the fisherman, its the fisherman that defines the fisherman.

OK.  I disagree with you.  

I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman.

I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman.

It will make a good fishermen a better angler this has been talked about a lot it's like a car some guy driving a f430 will get smashed on the track to an experienced driver driving an subaru sti or Mitsubishi evolution now give that driver the f430 and no doubt he will be faster on the track.

Ok, i think youre trying to disagree again. In your example, its the DRIVER that makes the difference, reguardless of the car, just like its the FISHERMAN, not the rod. You just agreed with me. Now then, I'm done talking about this, but feel free to debate with yourself.

Ok, i think youre trying to disagree again. In your example, its the DRIVER that makes the difference, reguardless of the car, just like its the FISHERMAN, not the rod. You just agreed with me. Now then, I'm done talking about this, but feel free to debate with yourself.

I never did disagree that the angler makes the difference in fact everyone knows it does, but a better rod can help a skilled angler even better? AM i wrong here

I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman.

You cared enough to respond.  :

I don't care if you disagree with me. Fine. The steez is a good rod, but it wont make you a better fisherman.

You cared enough to respond.  :

woah easy now

Some folks sure can get riled up over some trivial B.S. huh??? Seems the original question got lost somewhere amidst all the arguing too, huh? Hell if I was swimming in money I'd buy one just cuz I could...seems to be a pretty bad *** rod. Just a broke *** soldier in Iraq here though, happy as all hell to be coming home to a brand new TD Zillion that 4 family members had to throw in on to get me for my birthday. Seriously guys...Why argue about something so dumb???

Some folks sure can get riled up over some trivial B.S. huh??? Seems the original question got lost somewhere amidst all the arguing too, huh? Hell if I was swimming in money I'd buy one just cuz I could...seems to be a pretty bad *** rod. Just a broke *** soldier in Iraq here though, happy as all hell to be coming home to a brand new TD Zillion that 4 family members had to throw in on to get me for my birthday. Seriously guys...Why argue about something so dumb???

Great point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!