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I have been getting a lot of line twist on my tube rod lately.  I have 8# vicious flouro on it and the line is treated with KVD L & L but I seem to still be getting way more than I ever have.  Could it be the vicious line, I just started using it and for my casters it works great but on a spinning setup it seems like it twists alot.

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Flouro on spinning gear is generally not too pleasant, and Vicious doesn't make the situation much better.

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Tubes and drop shot are the two baits that give me line twist unless I use braid then I don't notice it.

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Yep....tubes = line twist.  Most of it comes when you crank them in quick for the next toss.

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Use a good swivel and leader, should make a dramatic improvement.  I have a ul with 4#, no twist after 2 years of use.

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Sorry, but that is the nature of the beast in terms of technique and line used. What I do to minimize the line twist is that I let my line "rest" if I could describe it that way. After every 7-10 casts I'll hold my rod at least parallel to the ground to about 45 degrees and let the line and lure cork screw back and forth until it nearly stops and then continue fishing. It only takes about 5 seconds.

The faster you see the spinning, the more line twist there is so you might need to let it rest between fewer casts. I do this because I DON"T like to use a swivel when I drop shot unless the swivel is in the weight.

Minimizing it is the key, not elimination. It isn't going to happen without a swivel and even then it will still get twisted.

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Spro makes a great "PowerSwivel", which is a precision crane swivel design, in very small sizes. I've been using the size 10 on both my DS and tube rod. (I put a clear plastic bead above the swivel to protect the rod tip eye when I reel up.) I use the same line as the main for my leader, which is only about 1 1/2' - 2' long. Minimizes twist tremendously.

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If you use spinning gear, all lines twist, period.  The symptoms are worse with some lines (the stiffer the worse acting) but the bottom line is that to rid the line of twist, you need to troll it occasionally... which may mean once or twice a day or once a week / month depending on the particular set up.  Otherwise, you'll be fighting it forever.

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When buying swivels, make sure you get ball bearing swivels as opposed to regular barrel type. Definitely worth it.

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Stop using Floro. It's for leaders.  Spinners will twist line but not that bad.  If that was true then spinning reels would totally suck and no one would use them.  Line twist on spinners is mostly due to the wrong size line on the reel...   or spooling up with floro..

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If you are using spinning gear some tips that help me

1. Make sure when you spool the reel that the line is coming off the feeder spool in the same direction it is going onto the reel.

2. Use a barrel swivel on the tag end of your line

A barrel swivel NOT A SNAP SWIVEL

A good live bait swivel or BB swivel

Use the smallest swivel you can get away with

3. add a leader around 8 to 12 inches from the swivel to your bait

4. When you retrieve , flip the bail by hand, this avoids that first loop

5. Twist is inevitable, just take every thing off occasionally and let the water drag the line off your reel, trool it behind the boat and then rewind it.

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I use spinning gear of all sizes and for all lures and eventually you will get line twist no matter what. I have tried all types of line and the line that seems to get the least amount of twist problems is Trilene Sensation. Because of twist I change my line about every two months but even still I get twist problems, especially with the lighter line weight.

I don't use swivels at all except for Carolina rigs and that may enhance the line twist problem but I personally don't like swivels but I do use snaps for quick lure changes.

Tossing weightless flukes and grubs can really cause some twist problems. Every once in a while I end up stripping 50 or so feet of line off just to keep the problem at a minimum. Contrary to popular belief the spool does not have to be full to properly fish a spinning rig.

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Oh, I almost forgot. You know that bonehead move that no good spinning reel fisherman will admit to? You know the one where they cast and forget to flip the bail down? That really helps screw things up regarding twist and line tensions.

I am not sure how I know this.....I just do. 8-)

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As you would expect, Shimano has taken the lead

in addressing this problem:

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/spinning/propulsion.html

8-)

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I use spinning gear of all sizes and for all lures and eventually you will get line twist no matter what. I have tried all types of line and the line that seems to get the least amount of twist problems is Trilene Sensation. Because of twist I change my line about every two months but even still I get twist problems, especially with the lighter line weight.

I don't use swivels at all except for Carolina rigs and that may enhance the line twist problem but I personally don't like swivels but I do use snaps for quick lure changes.

Tossing weightless flukes and grubs can really cause some twist problems. Every once in a while I end up stripping 50 or so feet of line off just to keep the problem at a minimum. Contrary to popular belief the spool does not have to be full to properly fish a spinning rig.

Hey Tom: My partner never uses swivels either. and he has about the same twist issues I have when I am using spinning gear.

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I use braid on all spinning except an ul pflueger trion, with swivel and no line twist, same line for about 2 years.

Yesterday I was using a conventional reel and noticed bad line twist, later that day it dawned on me that I had used that outfit for trolling with a spoon, hence the twist.

I use braid on my stradic fi and I am going to replace several of my saltwater spinners to stradics( having some custom rods made as well), it really is an outstanding reel and I don't remember ever having a wind knot on it.

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