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Saturday will be the end of the better part of a week of on and off thunderstorms here in jersey.  The water is gunna be really high and really dirty.  The murky water i can handle, but what should i do to compensate for the high water?

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Look for New cover..?  :)

The red river has got all of our lakes around here backed way up. When we git an extreme high water we usually fish around submerged camps edges of levees submerged road beds. Alot of fish get around gravel. Whether it is extremely high or moderately high, but especially after a rain, I would look for some kind of run out structure like a small d**n or mouths of creeks and on points with current flowing across.

In high water fish will hang tighter to structure (ledges, boulders, trees, stumps, etc.) and at times in higher flows the telltale signs of these pieces of structure won't be visible on the surface--there's no way you'd know that they're there unless you saw it in lower and clearer water conditions. Inside seams are always a good bet in high water conditionsthese areas that are often a slower speed than the main current provide resting and holding places for Largemouth Bass. Fish are looking to get out of the heavy flow so sharp corners or bends that have a well defined inside seam (often times these places will have an eddy circling back around as well) are great places to find Largemouth Bass under these conditions. Drop-offs that go from shallow-to-deep are also locations anglers should commit to memory and target during these times. Situations with these characteristics will create eddies along the stream bottom which can also serve as resting places for Largemouth Bass in less than ideal flows. Searching out tributary mouths and confluences with the main river can be well worth the time in these conditions. Seeps or sources of clearer and cleaner water can provide Largemouth Bass the opportunity to get out of the high and dirty water (which irritates their gills, among other things) and in to a more comfortable setting. Hope that this information is helpfull...

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After any particularly heavy rain, the pond I fish can rise by several inches.

There are several wadis that feed into it during rainy times.  A wadi being a stream, usually a desert stream, that has water only when it rains, or for a short time afterward.

Even though it isn't like places where fish can spread out into new areas, I have found that the areas around these "streams" provide better fishing.

I suspect it's because these streams wash worms, bugs and other feed into the pond.  It may be that these attract the bass, or baitfish which in turn attract the predators.  

These streams run through pastures, draining swampland, are little more than rocky, grassy ditches and run clear, so they don't present the mud problem mentioned in an earlier post.

I've always heard that when the water rises, fish will follow food up into the areas they usually can't get to.  Several years ago, I think it was Denny Brauer(Not Sure) that did well in a tournament on lake champlain when the water was high by fishing in grass and reeds so thick it looked like his boat was parked in a hay field.

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Bass move up as the water rises and retreat when it drops, simple to remember; spring up & fall down.

Raising water or falling water creates current and current is always an important factor; bass use the current to bring prey to them at funnel areas. The newly flooded areas offer a smorgusborg of prey for the bass. The will be active when searching the new flooded area; use a reaction lure that will work well in the flooded cover or cover edges; spinnerbait with bright blades. Dark color jigs and worms with bright highlights work well in muddied water at the funnel areas where the water is entering of leaving; retrieve with the current so the lure come to the bass facing into the current, not from behind. Good luck.

WRB

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Depends on the lake, let me exemplify:

Lake La Sauceda.- relatively flat, high water means I 'll move my hunting grounds towards where the creek and main river enter the lake.

Lake La Laborcita.- very steep banks, dam built on the narrowest point of a canyon, high water means I 'll fish the same spots I always fish, why ? , the banks are pretty steep, fish ain 't going anywhere.

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I remember years ago, in a tournament on the St. John's river (near Big Lake George) in Florida, we located about a half mile of undercut bank. Those two days, and during practice check, we were nailing our fish on "tide push" when the water was rising. Our located fish were coming out from undercut banks and just busting our worms and jig/worms. It was unbelievable fishing for a few hours. When it stopped and tide pull started building the fish retreated back to the undercut banks and we had to change to flippin tactics to boat good size fish. This happened day after day.

Interestingly in practice, during the tide push in this area, flippin was dead.

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I would target 2 areas; the original shoreline and then newly flooded cover ;)

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catt X2.  ;)

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I think you guys are complicating a very simple matter.

If bass were 3.5 feet below the surface and on the bottom before the level went "Up" or "Down" (makes no difference),

you'll still find bass 3.5 feet below the surface and on the bottom (what could be easier?).

If the fish were suspended 8 ft below the surface before the pool level rose 5 ft or fell 5 ft,

they'll still be found suspended 8 ft below the surface.

There is no such thing as bank-beating, because bass do not relate to the shoreline, it's just a byproduct

of their current depth and the bottom contour (it may be near the shore, it may be away from the shore).

Bass relate to contour and cover at their currently preferred depth, the shoreline merely limits that depth to zero.

The best thing to remember is that a change in pool level does not change the depth of fish,

but changes the places where the angler must fish. To get the jump on this game, when you do your chart analysis,

"always" select several sets of holding sites, based on several different pool levels.

Roger

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I think you guys are complicating a very simple matter.

If bass were 3.5 feet below the surface and on the bottom before the level went "Up" or "Down" (makes no difference),

you'll still find bass 3.5 feet below the surface and on the bottom (what could be easier?).

If the fish were suspended 8 ft below the surface before the pool level rose 5 ft or fell 5 ft,

they'll still be found suspended 8 ft below the surface.

There is no such thing as bank-beating, because bass do not relate to the shoreline, it's just a byproduct

of their current depth and the bottom contour (it may be near the shore, it may be away from the shore).

Bass relate to contour and cover at their preferred depth, the shoreline merely limits that depth to zero.

The best thing to remember is that a change in pool level does not change the depth of fish,

but changes the places where the angler must fish. To get the jump on this game, when you do your chart analysis,

"always" select several sets of holding sites, based on several different pool levels.

Roger

Nah it can be that simple ;)  

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