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Not really Bass related but Amazon has Dobyns Hyperlite Jj11-2cr on sale for 68.. https://www.amazon.com/Dobyns-Rods-HYPERLITE-Weight-Cork-Full/dp/B0D5JVXGY5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C3DMR47106WF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.iRgzB9RwVv7S1Dbk7wRg5A.hAMtDl5bvkxL1zqr8s-kVX7czvS7ePQ5wWx0FHS5hF8&dib_tag=se&keywords=Jj11-2cr&qid=1758766247&sprefix=jj11-2cr%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-1&th=1

Yeah I understand about the boot tail, but I have tried several other trailers and for whatever reason this combination was getting the most bites. I have several pin tail type trailers and what had me thinking that maybe something with just the boot tail may produce even better. I am familiar with the free rig but haven't tried it with a boot tail, what kind of weight are normally using, most of what I fish is pretty shallow.

I had to look that one up and you know what, I am somewhat *cough* older and I swear that looks a lot like some baits that I fished as a kid, had props on front and back and had the same shape. Not sure I can remember the maker or the name but I know I still have some somewhere, lol.

Not really, I have tried a whopper plopper early in the am but no takers...I know some have had some luck with a unweighted fluke but hard for me to slow down to do that, lol. I so have a spook and maybe swap that out for the whopper plopper.

I've thrown a spinner bait some and I have 2 different spinnerbaits tied on but really what I have seen at least from last year, the spinnerbait bite really doesnt turn on until the water drops a little more. I should take better notes ( I don't take any, which is stupid I know) but last year I think it was upper 60's. Neither of the spinnerbaits that I have are 2 willow, one is a single willow and the other is a willow colorado combination. I have thrown both every outing but not had a single taker vs the bladed jig. Bait I assume is all sizes but the majority are pretty small and why I have been using a small swimbait, 3.5".

Have this lake that I fish and its an odd one imho, it has tons of baitfish (gizzard shad) and they are everywhere and water temps have just started to drop....yesterday when I was seeing 78-79 but getting some rain today so my guess it will cool down a little bit. Litterally there are baitfish everywhere crazy how many there are, Ospreys, herons and eagles have a constant food supply (the ospreys are really cool). Right now most are still having some luck flipping boat docks but I tend to try to do other things and have been trying to target the baitfish angle and have had some luck with a bladed jig mini w/ black/blue skirt. I've caught a few but really have to cover a lot of water to find some, caught the one decent one yesterday on a chick magnet but even that was only one fish. I am trying to think what other things that I could try that maybe would be more productive than the mini bladed jig, I've thrown a compact swimjig a little but usually go back to the bladed jig, but maybe thinking I should stay with it longer and see. I am using a pretty small paddle tail swimbait, 3.5" on the mini bladed jig. Thinking my other options would be to try a underspin with the small paddle tail and maybe just a jig head without the blade. Those are the only three things I can think of to try, underspin, swimbait and the swimjig for this time of the year, early fall and falling temps any other options that would be better to try? Thanks

Yeah i caved and ordered some crosseye chatterbaits, like I need more than I have now...but for the price I figured why not.

Yeah I was tempted and I'm sure its a nice real but I'm pretty much all shimano and just set up to service them etc...he has an SLX XT on the site but kind of high on that one but I have also tagged the site and will keep an eye on it. I was thinking about ordering some of the crosseye chatterbaits but kind of waiting for Dicks to have them on sale and pick up some mini max's...but I am tempted...

Hate to say it but it has happened to me multiple times with Fedex, they like lose stuff in their own warehouses. I had something like that got *cough* lost and they finally told me to have the vendor send another unit, then 2 weeks later it showed up. Hoping yours gets delivered on Monday!

Thats a good price if they actually have them...wish they were curados, lol...

My question would be for the reel is if its from Japan or US. If from Japan I have no idea what kind of tariff will be, ive been buying reels from Japan but once the deminimus was removed...ive not and will not do anything until I know what the cost is going to be...just FYI for stuff coming from Japan right now or really from anywhere.

Again Fedex is the worse...:( My guess it wont show up today but again who knows and they have automated the call in, you cannot actually talk to anyone, great company just reduced to the worst...sad

Glad to see it made it in *cough* one piece, hate to say it but I think Fedex is about the worst these days...

They have a lot of rods not sure I know which line you are referring to.

Understand, gonna keep looking and see what I can find. I still need to find my groove with the bladed jig for whatever reason I'm not very good vs the spinnerbait. I had a couple fish that I set the hook on today that were small that I pulled out of the water. I think that is to much for the hook set, I just need more practice and figure out what works for me.

Yeah the new rod I got is medium fast and its better but I really want a moderate action, but really in cheaper rods a mh moderate is hard to find most everything that I have looked at is medium fast or fast. I have several moderate rods but they are medium and not medium heavy...gonna keep looking.

I picked up today a cheap h2o express premier rod to try out, i have several of them in medium/medium for small cranks and other light stuff. Picked up a mh, moderate fast, 7', is an im6 blank. It's stiffer than the m/m but not as stiff as th arid-x mhf of the same length. Really dont think its the rod, i need to delay hookset and make sure they have it before setting the hook but for as cheap as the rod is I thought it was worth a shot. Also changed my leader back to mono from fluoro. Hoping to get out tomorrow if I can avoid the rain for 4 hours.

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Looks like they no longer make that exact rod at least looking on TW site, the heavy now is a 7'5" rod.

One of the fish today I think was in that ballpark, hit it right when it hit the water...need to wait longer and make sure they have it...last couple of teips Ive missed 5-6 quality fish...ugh.

Agree, not on the yips part but I think I am setting the hook to quickly. I think I need to wait longer anz maybe from years of spinnerbait and cranks even though I am trying to do that I havent been very successful in application. Another problem us right now the bites are few and far between and when I get a strike kind of just reaction on my part.

Here is a picture of the mini along with one and my finger, not a big hook maybe 2/0, and with the trailer maybe I need to ditch the trailer.

Welp I went with a heavier rod today on the mini max, and oof I missed 2 large fish. One was really large but not sure how big, that one I threw up shallow and she hit it once it hit the water, the other one was moving. This rod is a MHF 1/4-1oz and its much stiffer than the MM I was using but honestly I do not think that is the issue but I need to figure it out since I am losing some really nice fish that I would at least like to get them to the boat. The hook on the mini's are pretty small and maybe that and along with the trailer that I am using are causing the issue. I think the hook on the mini is a 2/0 and along with my small boot tail swimbait maybe that is causing some issues. Both fish I felt like I am setting the hook really strong to the side but now thinking maybe I should try setting the hook upwards vs to the side. Honestly right now I am stumped and frustrated that I keep missing the larger ones...sigh. Will take a picture of the bait and trailer, really do not want to add a stinger hook to the setup.

The stealth blades only comes in the larger version. I have both but really like the smaller minis, not the micros thise are tiny. The minis come in 1/8 to 1/4oz and then they have the mini max which have more colors and heavier weights up to 3/8oz. The minis have a much smaller blade and imho are more of a finesse presentation, less vibration and I think do better in higher pressured lakes. You can pick up the normal minis usually at wally world for about $5. The mini-max have better colors and a trailer keeper but i add my own keeper and make my own skirts but for $5 they are cheap enough to try out. I need to post how I do upgrade the hook keeper, super easy to do and works pretty well...

Couple of these lakes that I fish have NO grass in them at all, wish there was some but its a community lake and they keep grass out which is a bummer from the fishing perspective.