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  • <------------------------- Does this guy look like an athlete?

  • ESPN thinks Poker is a sport. Doesn't take much athletic ability to "play" that sport.

  • The word "athlete" is a romanization of the Greek: άθλητὴς, athlētēs, one who participates in a contest; from ἂθλος, áthlos, or ἂθλον, áthlon, a contest or feat.   I say yes, while it might not be t

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There are also reports of BASS Pro anglers burning 4800-5800 in one tournament day..... a pitcher in base ball who weighs 183 burns 900 calories in 2 hours, I am not a base ball guy but I belive that is about what the pros pitch in an outing

Comparing apples and oranges here.  Pitchers and all baseball players for that matter play 162 games from april to october 1st or so.  It is not uncommon to play 20 games in a row without a rest day and that includes travel to and  from.  There is no way a fisherman is as good an athlete as any baseball player and that is assuming you think tourney fisherman are athletes, which i don't.

 

Your comparison would be like saying well hockey players only play 1-3 minute shifts  and only 23 minutes a game ( for the top guys) so it can't be as hard as a day of tournament fishing.  They are different but i would venture a guess that any baseball player could go out and fish all day long with no issues for a week where i couldn't say the same about an angler going out and playing baseball.  

i look at it as, If you are competing then you are in a sport. So As bassfishing YES!!!! WE ARE ATHLETE'S

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So are chess players athletes?

 

It is all semantics but my perspective is an athlete can be a bass fisherman but a bass fisherman does not have to be an athlete.

I honestly believe it is a skill, not a sport. Yes it can be competitive, but just like poker, it is not a sport to me.

Golfers are, why not fisherman. I consider myself a athlete, I played aau and high school baseball as well as basketball. These days I golf and fish and fishing out there all day takes alot outta you. I consider it a sport.

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What does an athlete have to endure before this guy thinks it is a sport ? risk of life ? endurance ? knowledge ? courage to face a stronger opponent ? performing under extreme conditions and still be successful ?  to be in good shape both mentally and physically ?

 

What does this sport not have other than physical contact ?

Golfers, race car drivers, and now bass fishermen apparently, have always struck me as a little insecure in this whole "Is it a sport/Are we athletes" debate.

 

Why is it so important that bass fishing -- at least at the pro level -- be considered a sport? It doesn't make what KvD, Monroe, Iaconelli, Evers and the like do any less impressive whether it's defined as a sport or not, or they're considered as athletes. Is it easy? No, but neither is professional poker or beer pong and I'm not calling them athletes.

by definition from Wikipedia:

 

 

 

Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity which,[1] through casual or organised participation, aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability and skills while providing entertainment to participants, and in some cases, spectators.[2] Hundreds of sports exist, from those requiring only two participants, through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams or competing as individuals............

 

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Sports are usually governed by a set of rules or customs, which serve to ensure fair competition, and allow consistent adjudication of the winner. Winning can be determined by physical events such as scoring goals or crossing a line first, or by the determination of judges who are scoring elements of the sporting performance, including objective or subjective measures such as technical performance or artistic impression.

 

 

therefore, tournament bass fishing is a sport, as there are rules to be followed, and at the end there will be a winner.... fun fishing is not a sport, no matter how physically demanding it may be.... for example, im also a rock climber, and while its a great exercise, requires a lot of physicall and mental strenght, its not a sport, as there are no rules, and no winner nor looser, we just climb for the sake of it, competing only againts ourselves, trying to climb harder that yesterday...

I have a hard time classifying anyone as an athlete when the most physically taxing aspect of their sport is holding their bladder as long as they can to milk another hour out of the day.

So, while the argument can certainly be made that it's a sport, why bother?

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I think this thread should be renamed to "the thread that won't ever die"

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I think this thread should be renamed to "the thread that won't ever die"

 

This is nothing....6 years old, almost 40K posts:

 

http://photocamel.com/forum/fun-stuff/33844-ban-person-above-me.html

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I am surprised any boards are still around for that long...meaning most of the message boards i frequent seem to archive and update every 3-4 years.

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I am surprised any boards are still around for that long...meaning most of the message boards i frequent seem to archive and update every 3-4 years.

 

Current threads are never disposed of or archived in any forum software I've used.  Only abandoned threads that haven't been updated within a certain threshold.

It's really just semantics.

I think of baseball and football as games, but think of hunting and fishing as sports. 

Football and baseball are played outdoors, but "Sports Afield" magazine is devoted to hunting and fishing.

 

Sports are commonly divided into two categories:

>> Participant Sports   (like hunting & fishing)

>> Spectator Sports:    (like football & baseball)

A Participant sport tends to burn calories <> A Spectator sport tends to collect calories (hotdogs, potato chips & beer)

A Participant sport involves personal achievement <> A Spectator sport is watching the achievements of others

 

Roger

 

I rather like this definition.

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I rather like this definition.

 

I like this one as well.

Once upon a time sports was defined as what it is in the dictionary. In today's modern world of sports it should be redefined and split up. It would be hard to believe that Chris Lane and Cliff Pace works out more than the average YMCA member. Being physically able to handle the hours and weather is no easy feat but it's not the same as being physically gifted where you are superior in either speed, size, strength, and coordination.

IMO with competition fishing, knowledge and decision making is 80-90% of your success. With modern major sports there is no question you have to be physically gifted. Whether it's size, speed, strength or coordination, success is determined more on superior body movements. Now I'm sure people will say casting, flipping, pitching, hook sets are body motions but you don't need to be superior in those department but need to be superior in where you think the fishes are and the decisions to choose this lure vs that.

I might ruffle some feathers but if I was to redefined sports then NO it's not a sport. Ping pong is more of a sport.

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If people can call chess a sport, then standards are pretty low

I think it's a sport. The time I spend in it is about the same amount as an athlete. All the tackle arrangements, store visits, and throwing practice.

Depends on your definition of "sport".  If you mean athletic, than a resounding NO :)  If you are basing it off of skill, than sure. 

 

I would classify it as a drug :)

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Here We Go . . . . .

 

A-Jay

 

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Here We Go . . . . .

 

A-Jay

 

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I'm hoping that is not a transfer from a sweatshirt. :cry4:

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I'm hoping that is not a transfer from a sweatshirt. :cry4:

 

It is -

 

and it's the best Selfy I've ever done . . . .

 

:eyebrows:

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Depends on your definition of "sport".  If you mean athletic, than a resounding NO :)  If you are basing it off of skill, than sure. 

 

I would classify it as a drug :)

 

I agree.

 

All fishermen aren't athletes, and all athletes aren't fishermen, but the two are often coexistent.

I remember when Ted Williams hoisted a tarpon over 100 lbs with one arm, where most of us would use both arms. 

 

You don't have to be athletic to go hunting either, but it sure helps.

When dad & I hunted pheasants, we slogged through mucky bottomlands for hours.

Many of our steps sank half-foot deep, occasionally loosing a boot which had to be yanked out of the mire.

With a sustained heart rate over 140 bpm for 2 or 3 hours you're not aerobic, you're anaerobic

I've dragged 200 lb field-dressed deer for several hundred yards, which I would class as fair to middling exercise  :rolleyes7:

 

Roger

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