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In the past when Ive used brait to tie direct, I had issues with the knot slipping. I typically use a palomar. Is there a different one I should be using?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Tom

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Palomar is the best for braid. if that knot is slipping work on your technique. also wet the knot when cinching it tight.

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I use the palomar for all of my braid to lure knots and i have never had an issue. there are plenty of good knots out there if this one just doesn't work for you, but I would say that it is the best overall knot I have used considering strength and ease of tying...

 

Mitch

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I like the palomar. But I burn my tag end with a lighter and it leaves a little bump on the tag end. I haven't had one slip in a long time if ever using the lighter

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If you're already tying a palomar, why not give it another loop and go double?  I always use the double palomar on braid and they never slip.  Just always remember to wet the line so it seats properly.  

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The shark knot is a good knot for braid. If you're wanting to stick with the palomar and are having issues with knot slippage, try the double palomar.

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If you're already tying a palomar, why not give it another loop and go double?  I always use the double palomar on braid and they never slip.  Just always remember to wet the line so it seats properly.  

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I probably haven't used the palomar but 6 times in the last 10 years, too awkward for me. If your knot doesn't slip using 15# braid with a 30# fish on the line, keep using it you got a good knot, mine passes that test. I use a double wrapped improved clinch with 7 wraps, singed tag end.

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Hi Everyone,

 

A little history on the Duncan and Double Palomar. 

 

The Duncan knot was originally developed by Duncan as a loop knot used a lot by fly fishers.  You tie the Duncan knot but don't pull it tight to the hook and the fly movement is not restricted.  When a fish takes the fly the loop slides closed on the hook.  You can then loosen the Duncan by pulling on the tag end and used it again for a loop knot.  Bass Fishers don't use the Duncan as a loop knot and generally pulls it tight to the hook.  If you still have slippage with the standard Duncan loop then go through the hook eye two times and then tie the Duncan as usual.  Mr Duncan was kind enough to show his knot to a fishing writer who introduced it as the uni without giving credit to Duncan. 

 

Back in 2000 I moved to Florida and got serious about Bass Fishing again.  I started with 10lb braid and found that the Palomar knot would slip sometimes with this line.  After looking at the Palomar knot I found that it was basically a single Surgeon loop that was pulled tight.  In fly fishing we use a lot of loop knots and one of the favorites is the Double Surgeon Loop.  So I tried the double surgeon loop and found it would not slip and the double Palomar was born, at least to me.  I recommended the Double Palomar to members of another board and they all found it to be an excellent knot for braid.  So next time you tie a Double Palomar look at it before you pull the bait through the loop and you will see it is a Double Surgeon Loop at that point.  When you put the bait through the loop and pull it tight, you now have the Double Palomar.  There is also a Triple Surgeon Loop and that really is strong but it is also very hard to tighten as a Triple Palomar.  The Double Palomar doesn't slip so no need for the Triple Palomar even though I have used it some. 

 

Frank

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I've always used the palomer knot.  Never had an issue with it.

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I probably haven't used the palomar but 6 times in the last 10 years, too awkward for me. If your knot doesn't slip using 15# braid with a 30# fish on the line, keep using it you got a good knot, mine passes that test. I use a double wrapped improved clinch with 7 wraps, singed tag end.

 

x2 :Victory: , 7 wraps is the magic number. :wink2:  Even when I do braid to flouro or mono with an uni knot it's 7 wraps with the braid.

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I've used palomar and uni forever but day before yesterday I tied on a lure using a trilene knot with 10# braid and another one with 10# nan0fil - 6 wraps moistened and slowly tightened, the knots didn't slip and they were very small and tidy and had double line on the eye. I'll try this til it fails as it is a very quick and easy knot.

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Uni knot 6 wraps. If it slips your doing something wrong. 

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