Is this a new word that Shimano haters created? lol  Shimano users aren't the only ones who spend a lot of money on aftermarket parts for their reels.

 

How about a simple but awesome staple from the guys at PMR (Pimp My Reel).  This cost a few bucks.....

 

Old vs. New..... Check out what this guy has to say about this particular Abu Garcia Reel.  He is very critical of it.  I am not sure all of it is warranted but it is interesting to listen to.

 

Old vs. New..... Check out what this guy has to say about this particular Abu Garcia Reel.  He is very critical of it.  I am not sure all of it is warranted but it is interesting to listen to.

 

That Jamie guy is hit or miss among the surf/tournament casting community.  His reviews are pretty Captain Obvious, but then again, there are still those that are still new to the world of fishing and that's his target demographic.  

He is customizing his reels to his liking. Just like tons of the people on here take half of their brand new reel and replace it with higher end parts. That's like yelling at someone for putting a new exhaust pipe on a muscle car. Shimano fanboys love to put another 200 dollars into an already 400 dollar reel and go on and on about how all other brands are in-superior. If you put an old lews with revamped parts against a new lews with original parts they are going to be quite equal.

So has anyone come to a real conclusion about why people are arguing about this? There was junk then and there is junk now there is great products now and there was great products 20 years ago. People pay 10 times retail on some old baits or 2 times the price on old rods and reels. Why ? Because it's their money and they are free to do whatever the heck they want with it.

I don't agree that all rods and reels today are junk. Just like not all rods and reels then were junk. So quit making stupid comments about your personal preference that wasn't even part of the OP's statement. Quit being fanboys of one brand or time period or whatever you want to be a fan of, or at least quit arguing over all of it.

You need to go back and read this whole thread again. You will soon see that most of what you're saying makes no sense at all.

Hootie

Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow"   Whatever floats your boat.  I think todays reels are all garbage.  Rods, even worse.....

 

 

Ok so let me get this right.... all you shimano worshippers have a entitled right to proclaim your shimano love 25 hours a day.  Defensively any thought other than your own is ignorance?  Right, thats why I served, to defend your rights to entitled arrogance and my ignorance.  Nothing on this forum has ever proven my claims that there are so many "internet experts".  I'm ignorant because I don't like what you all likeand don't use what you all use.  You are as a whole the largest group of defensive and arrogant man boys the angling world has ever seen.

 

Don't worry Francho, you don't need to add another warning point to my doesnt play well with others tag.

I am curious, is this how you feel in general about things in life that technology continues to improve or is this just an attitude regarding people who own Shimano products on this forum. I am whole heartedly trying to understand your two posts one that says you may enjoy the way things once were and the other an outright assault on Shimano consumers. I can certainly understand if you are one who does not welcome changes in life but why the tude regarding your words "Shimano Worshippers".

Says the guy buying brand new gear from Japan and upgrading all his old reels with brand new components.  Give me a freaking break.  

 

Nobody said the old gear wasn't good.  All of us older than about 20 have fond memories of the gear we grew up using and still use today.  But to say that the old stuff is better than the new stuff and the new stuff is "garbage" is plain silly.   Gotta have something to complain about though, right?

Jrod78,I bought 1 new reel from and the other 2 are used Ambassadeurs. As for upgrading my other reels you seem to forget that they are still older reels who's basic design has been around since the 50's. Of the 3 reels that I fish with the most,2 have only 2 bearings, and the other one has only bushings. I wasn't the one who said the new stuff was junk,new designs and technology have made for better reels,but it also makes these reels obsolete within a few years,where as the design of my reels are evolutionary, and have been improved upon through the years. Most of the youngsters here seem to think they invented bass fishing, and that they know the best way to fish.i was around when most of the effective techniques were developed. Doodlin, flipping,splitshotting, swim baits, tubes,and swimming jigs were all from my era,amd I learned from the guys who invented these techniques. Everyone has their opinion, but thst doesn't mean it's right.

Old vs. New..... Check out what this guy has to say about this particular Abu Garcia Reel.  He is very critical of it.  I am not sure all of it is warranted but it is interesting to listen to. Those new reels are junk,and are not made in Sweden. No true Ambassadeur lover would buy this crap!

 

Paging Dr. Irene.

 

Those new reels are junk,and are not made in Sweden. No true Ambassadeur lover would buy this crap!

 

Agreed.  I was just trying to find an example of a reel that comes from a great line of reels which was not all that it appeared to be.  Hence not all new reels are what they appear to be.  It's some time it helps to be informed of what you are buying despite the name. That is why I visit this forum.

Whats that old saying..."Thats why the old lady kissed the cow" Whatever floats your boat. I think todays reels are all garbage. Rods, even worse.....

Wow that's a pretty bold statement to make. I agree that some of today's rods and reels are junk, but to say that ALL are garbage... I'm not sure what kind of experience you have with todays rods and reels but obviously you haven't used a new Metanium or even tatula. LOL.

And no I'm not a "shimano worshipper", I own only 2 shimano reels and one g loomis rod.

Personally, I couldn't get rid of my Abu's fast enough, I don't care if a reel is capable of a 50 year lifespan.. You don't hear me and other Shimano & Daiwa fans trashing out those reels..

If you notice, the Disgruntled Shimano ex-users..

The theme is to just insistently bash Shimano on this Site.. Seems like trolling to me, having a opinion is one thing, interjecting the same old rhetoric has little purpose. I'm sorry Shimano failed to meet your expectations, sounds like Abu's are your go to reels. Great, I don't see a problem, except you try and create one. Always.

Get over it and move on..

Unfortunately, Purefishing has been going down this road lately, much to chagrin of it's avid following. That's why most of us die hard Abu fans continue to build our own reels. That's why there is a growing number of companies picking up the slack that Purefishing has decided not to be a part of. At one time, Purefishing considered having it's own Custom Shop,but decided against it. I build Custom reels for the fun of building something I can use,but also as a way to relax, and use my imagination to create a reel of my own design. Abu Garcia used to be a leader in the industry, eith features that every other company has adopted in their designs.Purefishing JP is the only entity trying to build better reels for the Ambassadeur enthusiasts.

Everyone has said their piece, it's time for this thread to die.

Not until my Conquest is released and allowed to come home.

Not until my Conquest is released and allowed to come home.

I feel you on that.  My Conquest was held in customs for about 3 agonizing weeks.  It finally made it home though.

3 weeks???

 

I feel you on that.  My Conquest was held in customs for about 3 agonizing weeks.  It finally made it home though.

3 weeks??? How much duty did they add to it?

3 weeks???

 

3 weeks??? How much duty did they add to it?

Yeah it was about 3 weeks.  I ended up calling customs to make sure everything was ok. lol   It finally did make it though and the duty fee was $26.

Can't we all just get along?

Agreed that nobody is dissing the older gear at all.

I have lots (read "too much") current gear and love it all. But I still miss walking along the bank with a bamboo pole and an inline spinner when I was six. And well remember when my Dear Old Dad gave me my first fiberglass rod with a newfangled Zebco attached.

It's ALL good!!

Live long and prosper.

I don't like to admit it, but stupid people scare me.

Hootie

it's alright. Me too.

This was easily the most pointless thread I've saw on this site. Aside from the Mustad hooks thread.

And scene....