I saw that TW had the Seagur red label at a price that I would be willing to give it one more try if I happen to see a deal on the 25 days sale that fits my current list of needs I have.

Previously I had tried Gamma edge I got in a product test program, and all I got were backlashes. The thing I can't remember is if I tried it on an old quantum lite reel or one of my quantum accurists, but it was not a good experience. Well tonight many years later I tossed the Gamma on the accurist and gave it six tosses in the dark and I did not get one backlash or even feel the line was loose on the spool. I am sure I gave up a little distance, but it was pretty much my normal settings, I did tighten the spool a touch, but it needed it. Now I am wishing I would have retried it sooner, but such is life.

Is the red label decent line?

Yes, great line and pricey.

As for backlashes, here is an old pro's trick:

Spool line on your baitcaster as usual.

Add the lure you will be throwing the most with the setup.

Balance the rod using the 11 o'clock trick.

Then cast that baby as far as you can.

Take the line from the rod after the cast and pull two arm lengths off the spool.

Take some Scotch tape or electrical tape and place a strip across the line on the spool.

Reel in the line, tightly.

Backlashes can go only as far as the tape will allow.

Once you master the 11 o'clock rod balancing trick you will no longer have backlashes. Or at least reduce them by 95% if not more.

Good luck.

I find that the heavier the fluorocarbon the harder it is to tame and you need a reel with an exceptional braking system. In my experience, anything over 10 lbs will be less manageable.

What's the 11 o'clock balance trick?

If you're wanting to try fluoro, I recommend staying away from Red Label. It's bargain priced (even at normal price) for a reason and I have had nothing but issues whenever I have tried it. At least get InvisX or AbrasX if you're wanting to try FC and not break the bank. 

What's the 11 o'clock balance trick?

 

Yeah.  X2

I have tried Red Label and have not used it since. Was less than impressed. 

Yeah.  X2

 

I agree, Sam I've never heard of the trick. Do enlighten us.....

agree with most above, not the best fluoro to try.  being that all seaguar is on sale, i'd look at invizx or abrazx.  

Use a good line conditioner with high memory line like FC. The conditioner allows the line to wet and stay on the spool. I use a product called TangleFree and KVD line conditioner is a popular choice.

Tom

If you had issues with Gamma Edge, I would look at what caused those issues before assuming it was the Flourocarbon. Gamma is a great line. Dont give up on flouro, the benefits far outweigh the cons in certain situations

When I began back fishing the first of the year, I had never tries FC and thought my Trilene mono was all I need. After a little research, I tried the Sunline Sniper and now that is all I use. it really throws to me like mono and i use 20# test on two of my reels. It is a little expensive but I spooled up in the springand it is still on my reels.

You may have never heard of Kureha, the Japanese company that invented fluorocarbon fishing line in 1971.

The name of Kureha product....Seaguar. Seaguar makes several FC line types, read what they publish about each line type. The better casting FC will be the line with less memory, the more abrasion resistance the higher the memory.

Tom

I use red label and it's been pretty steady. I just use it as a leader with braid and it's been so far so good. 

I actually switched from Gamma to Seaguar myself. Personally I did not enjoy multiple different gamma lines. They're coil memory is not as advertised and the sensitivity felt dull.

Now I prefer InvisiX and Red label.....will likely also be testing out their Tatsu line as well.

Tatsu is in a league of its own.

 

You get what you pay for with fluoro line. Plain and simple. I just purchased my 1st spool of Tatsu from TW while it's on sale. Can't wait to try it. A more managable fluoro, which it sounds like your after won't be as stiff / sensitive. Two categories. If a stiff / sensitive fluoro is what you're after you have to learn how to use it. The best happy medium I've found is Sunline Sniper and a lot of people will agree. Good luck

I guess I'm one of the only ones that feel this way, but I actually really like Red Label. I have trouble spending a lot of money on line and this like does just fine for me. Plus it's cheap

I always find rod vs reel threads entertaining. Which would you spend more money on type of deal. People using 600 dollar set ups but refuse to spend more than 8 bucks on line, the only thing connecting you and the fish. Not to mention, in all likliness it's the one element that may give you issues on the water. Personally I don't mind opening my wallet for a premium line, especially considering with backing you can usually spool up a few reels. Just my 2 cents 

Sunline Sniper FC is what you want.

 

As a braid guy, I use Red Label for a leader. I would not recommend it for any other application.

For the last several years, I have used Seaguar Abrazx and Red Label exclusively. Never had any problems with either. This year I have decided to drop back on line. I recently purchased a spool of Big Game, and on the recommendation of several guys on here, I ordered a spool of Izorline. I used Stren and Royal Bonnyl back in the 70's, with no problems. I know some have said why drop $500.00 on a rod and go cheap on line. I just don't believe that it's necessary to spend fifty bucks on a spool of line. You can't convince me that a spool of Big Game will wipe out all the qualities and features built into my NRX and GLX's. If that be the case, seems I might as well dump the rods too. That ain't gonna happen. I guarantee you my catch ratio, this season won't drop one iota. Just my 2 cents...er'...1 cent. I'm cutting back on that too.

Hootie