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For those of you that fish from a kayak, and that don't stand....

 

Are there any lures/techniques that you find rather awkward/difficult to use/do while in a sitting position?  Mainly due to the fact that you are at the same elevation as the surface of the water.

 

I have an Ascend FS128T kayak that I can stand on, but have not taken the time to master the balance while fishing.  So I remain in the seat.  I find it a little awkward fishing any lure that needs to stay on the surface of the water, or that needs to have constant retrieval. (buzzbaits/spinners, etc). 

 

I think I might attempt standing this year.  Definitely more comfortable for fishing.

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Topwater and jerkbaits.

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Topwater fishing. But I can do it seated, it is just much

easier when standing to point the rod tip down for the

retrieve.

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I have no problems with surface baits, for me it's pitching and accuracy of casting at closer targets, as well as skipping up underneath overhanging branches and such. 

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I'd also have to agree with casting to close targets.  I have to be very careful when using a baitcaster for that reason alone.  Backlashes are my friend when I don't have the space to cast.  So I primarily use my spinning outfit to avoid that birdsnest.

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I have difficulty punching while seated in my kayak.  The only other thing that comes to mind is bigger jigs in heavy cover.  It may be partly because my heavier rods have long handles, which are a challenge in the yak.

  Not really related to seat height, but true patient, finesse fishing, especially dead sticking, is harder just because any breeze or current makes boat position much harder than in a boat.

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I actually don't have trouble with topwater and jerkbaits at all, I just twitch to the side instead of down.

 

Pitching is problematic though; I can kind of do that from the side, but not nearly as well.

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i would have to say more specifically walking the dog with a topwater. Im much better at it from one side vs the other. I always try to fish, cast etc equally from both sides (practice makes perfect). I fish a whoppler plopper and spro rat on the top with no problem as its basically turning the reel. Jerkbaits can be a problem too. I would have to agree with the accuracy and pitching and flipping complications. Depending on how tall you are (im only 5'8 in a sit in kayak) kinda dictates the level of difficulty (In my opinion). Another thing i think makes fishing from a kayak a challenge (where you are close to the water) is on windy days and dealing with the line being blown and taken with waves. It can also be challenging to see the line really well at times. Wind blowing the kayak can be very frustrating at times.

 

But the pros are much greater than the cons IMO. Just something about being able to stealth into thick areas and pull out a 6lber. 

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I've never caught anything heaver than 1-2 pounds from my kayak.  So I certainly don't set my expectations too high :)

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Bottom contact lures are the worst for me.  Any air movement and it gets a lotime harder in a hurry.  A jig is the worst, as it needs to be felt to detect a bite while they just swim off with the worm.

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2 hours ago, crankbait2009 said:

For those of you that fish from a kayak, and that don't stand....

 

Are there any lures/techniques that you find rather awkward/difficult to use/do while in a sitting position?  Mainly due to the fact that you are at the same elevation as the surface of the water.

 

I have an Ascend FS128T kayak that I can stand on, but have not taken the time to master the balance while fishing.  So I remain in the seat.  I find it a little awkward fishing any lure that needs to stay on the surface of the water, or that needs to have constant retrieval. (buzzbaits/spinners, etc). 

 

I think I might attempt standing this year.  Definitely more comfortable for fishing.

Fishing while not standing just doesn't sit well with me. I find it hinders my mechanics both casting and working lures to varying degrees. Anything I fish rod tip down (poppers, JBs, etc) would drive me to take up golf.

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I just realized this probably should have been posted in the kayak section......but it kinda talks about both

 

On a side note, A few months back, a guy here at work (non fisherman) said that his friend uses a whopper plopper.  I thought he was just messing with me.  so i decided to google this so called whopper plopper.  holy hell, it is a THING!!  Within the last few days, I am hearing this term come up quite often.  Just as it did in post by @BassB8Caster.

 

So I am in the process of googling these bad boys.  Right off the bat, I see an expensive price tag.   I don't like to spend that much on a lure, but man, theirs a lot of talk about these.

 

I know this goes against the lures I struggle with while casting from a kayak, but if I learn to stand, or learn to use them while seated, it might just work.  OR I save them for non kayak days :)

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24 minutes ago, crankbait2009 said:

I've never caught anything heaver than 1-2 pounds from my kayak.  So I certainly don't set my expectations too high :)

C'mon Man!  Step up that game!

 

My best kayak bass, 6-8:

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I just started using soft plastics at the end of last season.  Prior to I was only using crankbaits.

I don't have much confidence in plastics.  But so far, the 3-4 times out last season, I caught fish on nothing but senkos.  For now, I am definitely becoming a fan of them.  Hopefully they catch me bigger bass this year.

 

and if I land myself a whopper plopper, maybe that will work for me as well.

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I caught that fish, and 6 in the same day, both on jigs.

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I am not as efficient with jerkbaits but since I normally only fish those in the dead of winter (with very long pauses) they are not much of an issue.

 

I have always felt that the jig was the perfect presentation for the seated kayak fisherman.

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I have thrown a jig a time or two, but never long enough to see any results.  Another no confidence bait.  i agree, very easy to cast and control from a seated position.

will still throw from time to time in hopes something happens

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It's definitely easier to pitch a jig if you can stand.

 

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45 minutes ago, crankbait2009 said:

I don't have much confidence in plastics.  But so far, the 3-4 times out last season, I caught fish on nothing but senkos.  For now, I am definitely becoming a fan of them.  Hopefully they catch me bigger bass this year.

 

You can and will catch fish on plastics and jigs.  Definitely have these as part of what you do.  That's what I use mostly, T-rigged plastic worms and craws, and ned rigs.  It's easier for me to use spinning gear vs. casting gear, as I'm sitting as close to level with the water line as you can get.  Also, have expectations of big fish, as getting towed around is a lot of fun.  Set your drag right and you should never get broken off.  You may get bit off by a pickerel or pike, but you should not get broken off.

Here's a picture that was taken last year.  There were two guys fishing in a boat, not catching anything and they watched me from a distance catch several LMB and SMB.  After I caught this SMB, I went over toward them as I was curious to see what it weighed.  The battery in their scale was dead, but they measured it for me and it was just over 21".  They said they would take a picture for me if I would tell them what I was doing to be successful.  So told them, and here's the picture.  Right after that, they started catching fish using a small jig and they were thrilled.  So definitely consider using jigs and plastics.

 

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I have problems with walk the dog type top waters like Spooks. Shame because they are my favorite top water baits.

 

The Whopper Ploppers are very popular in the kayak fishing community because they are so easy to fish while seated, just chuck and reel.

 

Every type of presentation takes some adjustment when fishing sitting down though. More time in the seat on the water is the best way to iron out the kinks. 

 

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I am unable to stand in my kayak. I fish most every kind of bait from it and I would say I have the most trouble with jerkbaits and walk the dog style baits.

 

Not being able to point the rod tip down makes me have to alter the way I move these baits and it is not as comfortable to me.

 

Whopper Ploppers are great when kayaking. I have a 2lb pickerel hit the WP right next to my kayak. Really got the heart pumping.

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@NYWayfarerIf you cannot fish jerkbait, try Soft plastic jerkbait.

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10 minutes ago, JustJames said:

@NYWayfarerIf you cannot fish jerkbait, try Soft plastic jerkbait.

I use flukes for stripers from my yak and use a Side sweeping jerk to impart action. Works just as effectively than thinking you have to jerk downwards sitting so close to the surface. 

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