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Often overlooked, let's see some of your favourite spinning and baitcasting combos and how they balance.

Post up some pictures of their balancing points.

 

Megabass Destroyer FMJ & Daiwa morethan PE 1000XHL

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20 minutes ago, ResoKP said:

Often overlooked, let's see some of your favourite spinning and baitcasting combos and how they balance.

Post up some pictures of their balancing points.

 

Megabass Destroyer FMJ & Daiwa morethan PE 1000XHL

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Nice setup.

But to be fair, you need to back off the shot and display the entire length of the rig.

Otherwise  . . . . 

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A-Jay

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Often overlooked? Are you trolling us? Lol 

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20 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Often overlooked? Are you trolling us? Lol 

Well maybe it was just me and I did overlook if I'm being honest. I had planned on getting one reel but came out with another after trying the combo out in the store. I don't get to handle every product out there and I was hoping a thread like this would help regular guys like me have a better idea of how different rod & reels work together. When I get a chance, I will try to take more pictures of my other combos. Maybe it's completely useless info to others but something like this would help me with my purchases in the future.

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After discussing this a few weeks back, I went back through my rods, and how I hold them. I also measured quite a few to get the distance from the trigger to the balance point on some dobyns fury, champions, avid x, aetos, and more. I was a bit surprised, but it translated well into what I'm feeling in the rod when fishing. Just an example, my 705cb was 7 inches, my 7mf avid x was 11.5 inches.

Spinning rods would be a little less scientific just due to the many different holds people use.

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Definitely not useless info.

It's just that the sheer number of possible combinations of rod & reels would make the actual construction of even a semi-complete library of this info, a seriously daunting, if not impossible task. 

 

A-Jay

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6 minutes ago, WRangler506 said:

After discussing this a few weeks back, I went back through my rods, and how I hold them. I also measured quite a few to get the distance from the trigger to the balance point on some dobyns fury, champions, avid x, aetos, and more. I was a bit surprised, but it translated well into what I'm feeling in the rod when fishing. Just an example, my 705cb was 7 inches, my 7mf avid x was 11.5 inches.

Spinning rods would be a little less scientific just due to the many different holds people use.

This was without a reel?

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8 minutes ago, ResoKP said:

Well maybe it was just me and I did overlook if I'm being honest. I had planned on getting one reel but came out with another after trying the combo out in the store. I don't get to handle every product out there and I was hoping a thread like this would help regular guys like me have a better idea of how different rod & reels work together. When I get a chance, I will try to take more pictures of my other combos. Maybe it's completely useless info to others but something like this would help me with my purchases in the future.

Just having some fun with you. “Balance “ posts are one of the most common but always elisit responses. 

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The only balance that matters is how the combo feels in your hands and how it fishes the way you fish.

Your photo would OK they I hold rods and reels but without a small foregrip the knurled reel seat ring wouldn't feel good to me.

Each to his or her own madness.

Nice looking combo:)

Tom

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38 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Definitely not useless info.

It's just that the sheer number of possible combinations of rod & reels would make the actual construction of even a semi-complete library of this info, a seriously daunting, if not impossible task. 

 

A-Jay

Yeah fair point. But if someone posted Expride A 7'2" H with Curado DC and I wanted a Bantam MGL for that rod, I could still safely assume they will have about the same balance due to the two reels weighing the same. Or maybe I'm thinking this all wrong...

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I guess I'm confused why it matters. The reel is going to make the difference. Why do you care where the rod balances? Been fishing for 25+ years and never thought to see where my rod balanced. 

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^^^^^ This ^^^^

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1 minute ago, jbsoonerfan said:

I guess I'm confused why it matters. The reel is going to make the difference. Why do you care where the rod balances? Been fishing for 25+ years and never thought to see where my rod balanced. 

I'm with you, mostly.

Back in the day, gear weighted a ton and balance was never a concern.

In fact, when the first graphite sticks were snapping all over the place because manufacturers were set on making them light, I went the other way and avoided them - I wanted Heft.  Seemed to last longer. 

Now that they've made some light & reasonably strong blanks, the next 'important' concern was the balance.

I can see where some balance in certain presentations is somewhat desirable, but the concept that I can't cast accurately, detect strikes, set the hook or fish all day because my rod & reel isn't 'balanced' is IMO a Crock.

If I can't fish with a rig that weighs less than a pound all day, because it's too heavy, I need to give up the sport & take up knitting.  I hear that stuff is pretty light.

Off the soapbox now.

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A-Jay

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51 minutes ago, WRB said:

The only balance that matters is how the combo feels in your hands and how it fishes the way you fish.

Your photo would OK they I hold rods and reels but without a small foregrip the knurled reel seat ring wouldn't feel good to me.

Each to his or her own madness.

Nice looking combo:)

Tom

I know that what I like as a balance point, others would not. Everyone has individual tastes, so everyone's rig would be different based on that personal preference.

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All my bass rod and reel combos (both baitcasting and spinning) balance right where my middle finger on my palming hand is placed.  I add weight to the end of the butt of every rod to make sure this is the case. 

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7 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

I'm with you, mostly.

Back in the day, gear weighted a ton and balance was never a concern.

In fact, when the first graphite sticks were snapping all over the place because manufacturers were set on making them light, I went the other way and avoided them - I wanted Heft.  Seemed to last longer. 

Now that they've made some light & reasonably strong blanks, the next 'important' concern was the balance.

I can see where some balance in certain presentations is somewhat desirable, but the concept that I can't cast accurately, detect strikes, set the hook or fish all day because my rod & reel isn't 'balanced' is IMO a Crock.

If I can't fish with a rig that weighs less than a pound all day, because it's too heavy, I need to give up the sport & take up knitting.  I hear that stuff is pretty light.

Off the soapbox now.

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A-Jay

I think part of the reason it has become such a talking point in the last 10-15 years is mostly due to the trends in rods and reels. Rods have gotten longer, grip materials have gotten smaller and reels have gotten lighter. All of these things work together to create combos that are increasingly tip heavy, there is no way to avoid it. I don't think balance was much of a concern when reels weighed 10-12oz and rods were all 6' long.

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24 minutes ago, Jrob78 said:

I think part of the reason it has become such a talking point in the last 10-15 years is mostly due to the trends in rods and reels. Rods have gotten longer, grip materials have gotten smaller and reels have gotten lighter. All of these things work together to create combos that are increasingly tip heavy, there is no way to avoid it. I don't think balance was much of a concern when reels weighed 10-12oz and rods were all 6' long.

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While I can agree that rod components have changed over the years and this may have affected blank weights - but there is no way on Gods Green Earth, Today's tackle is Heavier than the fiberglass wands of yesteryear.

No Way. 

In fact, I bet just the guide train on my Dad's bass rod weighed more than both my drop shot rods combined !

Oh btw - those buggers are very balanced.

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A-Jay

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5 minutes ago, Jrob78 said:

I think part of the reason it has become such a talking point in the last 10-15 years is mostly due to the trends in rods and reels. Rods have gotten longer, grip materials have gotten smaller and reels have gotten lighter. All of these things work together to create combos that are increasingly tip heavy, there is no way to avoid it. I don't think balance was much of a concern when reels weighed 10-12oz and rods were all 6' long.

As far as I'm concerned, balance wasn't a problem back in the day, and it's not a problem for me with modern equipment today.

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3 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

While I can agree that rod components have changed over the years and this may have affected blank weights - but there is no way on Gods Green Earth, Today's tackle is Heavier than the fiberglass wands on yesteryear.

No Way. 

In fact, I bet just the guide train on my Dad's bass rod weighed more than both my drop shot rods combined !

Oh btw - those buggers are very balanced.

:smiley:

A-Jay

I didn't say today's rods were heavier, I said they were tip heavier than older rods. Longer rods combined with the lightest components and reels possible make for tip heavy rods. The flipside of that is you can have entire combos that weigh less than your daddy's guides.

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I want all my rod and reels to balance the way I like them to. I spend a lot of my money on fishing gear, which I worked my butt off to get. I want my combos  to feel perfect in my hands. 

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Here is my Curado DC on a 6'10" MH Denali Fission rod. Not sure what this proves, but here it is. LOL

 

 

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I for one appreciate a nicely balanced rod. One of the deciding factors on buying a new one. Comfort, durability, balance. Dont care who makes it, if it's good on those 3, I'm interested. Sensitivity is nice, too! 

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4 minutes ago, Joshua van Wyk said:

I want all my rod and reels to balance the way I like them to. I spend a lot of my money on fishing gear, which I worked my butt off to get. I want my combos  to feel perfect in my hands. 

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And that is exactly as it should be.

Me too.

Our idea of what perfect is may just be a little different that's all.

And as long as we dig our gear, it's all good.

A-Jay

3 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Here is my Curado DC on a 6'10" MH Denali Fission rod. Not sure what this proves, but here it is. LOL

 

 

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Sweet

It may mean that you can only catch 'balanced bass' that live in your closet with that particular rig.

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A-Jay

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Kistler H3 7'3" HXF with OG Zillion

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