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What knot do you guys use for heavier fluro? This would be a minimum 15lb test all the way up to 30lb. 

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San Diego jam knot.

Tom

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Just now, WRB said:

San Diego jam knot.

Tom

I'm struggling with the San Diego jam more than any other knot, including the FG knot. Are you doubling the lines Tom? 

Palomar for 15lb and up for me.  No issues.

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Uni.....all day, every day?

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12 minutes ago, NHBull said:

Uni.....all day, every day?

Doubled Uni works best for me and is grading out the highest in my tests. Just cant tie that san diego jam well 

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2 hours ago, FLAGATOR49 said:

I'm struggling with the San Diego jam more than any other knot, including the FG knot. Are you doubling the lines Tom? 

I learned to tie this knot in the 60's, it's simple with any lure that has some weight like a jig or whatever.

1. Put the end of the line through the hook eye, the tag end about a foot long.

2. Hold the top of the loop between your thumb and index finger about 3" long loop.

3. With the lure hanging down wrap the tag end around the loop about 5-6 turns.

4. Put the tag end through the bottom lop opening, then up through the top loop opening.

5. Pull the tag end snug and wet the knot, then pull the main line so the jam knot slides down to the hook eye. Now with the knot wet pull main line until it's tight, clip off the tag end about 1/8" long.

I use a single line loop, no reason to double it.

Tom

PS, tieing to a hook I clip on a cloths pin or hang a jig on the hook for weight.

 

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Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot.

Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best !

 

depositphotos_120969226-stock-photo-big-knot-mess-of-ropes.jpg

 

If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot.

:smiley:

A-Jay

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I'll use 17lb sometimes, mostly 15 lb...San Diego jam knot. Although I have used a uni, but 99% of the time an SD knot. 

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Just now, WRB said:

I learned to tie this knot in the 60's, it's simple with any lure that has some weight like a jig or whatever.

1. Put the end of the line through the hook eye, the tag end about a foot long.

2. Hold the top of the loop between your thumb and index finger about 3" long loop.

3. With the lure hanging down wrap the tag end around the loop about 5-6 turns.

4. Put the tag end through the bottom lop opening, then up through the top loop opening.

5. Pull the tag end snug and wet the knot, then pull the main line so the jam knot slides down to the hook eye. Now with the knot wet pull main line until it's tight, clip off the tag end about 1/8" long.

I use a single line loop, no reason to double it.

Tom

PS, tieing to a hook I clip on a cloths pin or hang a jig on the hook for weight.

 

Thanks for the advice Tom!! adding some weight is something im missing and the steps help a lot as well!!!

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2 minutes ago, FLAGATOR49 said:

Thanks for the advice Tom! adding some weight is something im missing and the steps help a lot as well!!!

And never skimp on the tag length...

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Just now, Hammer 4 said:

And never skimp on the tag length...

appreciate that tip Hammer 4!!

 

2 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot.

Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best !

 

depositphotos_120969226-stock-photo-big-knot-mess-of-ropes.jpg

 

If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot.

:smiley:

A-Jay

I'm guessing this is mocking how hard the SD Jam knot is? Either way i got a laugh out of it!

 

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Looks a like a backlash knot to me :o.

Tom

 

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23 minutes ago, WRB said:

Looks a like a backlash knot to me :o.

Tom

 

? or a compounded wind knot on a spinning reel!! Just tied the SD knot and much better results with your advice Tom Thank You! 

 

55 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

And never skimp on the tag length...

You're absolutely right more tag length is a must for the SD Jam!

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11 hours ago, WRB said:

San Diego jam knot.

Tom

 

9 hours ago, Hammer 4 said:

And never skimp on the tag length...

 

Ditto

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

10 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot.

Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best !

 

depositphotos_120969226-stock-photo-big-knot-mess-of-ropes.jpg

 

If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot.

:smiley:

A-Jay

I can't get my knot to look like that...:badlanguage:

This is the one I use, taught by the man himself.  Great for flouro, mono or braid.  This is all I use unless line to leader then I use the Alberto.

 

 

 

 

I am not one of the legions of Gerald Swindle man-crushers out there but this knot has proven darn near unbreakable.  Basically just a double clinch knot...

 

22 minutes ago, BoatSquirrel said:

I am not one of the legions of Gerald Swindle man-crushers out there but this knot has proven darn near unbreakable.  Basically just a double clinch knot...

 

LOL, I remember watching this clip. Gman cracks me up.

Depends what I'm tying on: Improved Clinch Knot, Trilene Knot, or Snell Knot. These three for me.

I just use the palomar knot and I have 17lb floro but it works for me

I use the fly fisherman's go to......Orvis knot, with 3 passes through the loop instead of 2.  Quick and easy, wastes less line, hasn't failed yet.

I still use the Improved Clinch knot with 17# InvisX and have never had an issue, never.  I have never lost a fish with this knot due to failure at the knot.  The three knots I use on a regular basis = Improved Clinch, Palomar and Alberto (Albright) not sure on the last one.  

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